Discussion in 'Bay Area Bikers' started by Michael Glover, Aug 19, 2003.

  1. ALL of you guys that did the motorcycle safety class to get you license
    could never pass the skill test on your own bikes thats why you all take the
    class and give an extra $100.00 to the state for the right to have a
    motorcycle license.Just what the state wants.That makes the skill test even
    less skillfull.
    __________________________________________________________________ Michael
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    Michael Glover, Aug 19, 2003
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  2. You are aware that the skills test for the MSF course is more difficult
    than the DMV one, right? More relevent too.
    Jason O'Rourke, Aug 19, 2003
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  3. Michael Glover

    mike Guest

    And if you get your head out of your ass, you just might lean something
    there too.
    mike, Aug 19, 2003
  4. Michael Glover

    jim stinnett Guest

    Please translate to a known language.
    jim stinnett, Aug 20, 2003
  5. Michael Glover

    Michael Guest

    Hmmn. Sounds like somebody bought a Harley as a first bike
    and failed the circle test...

    The DMV skill test is a very minimal test of skills. If you
    can't pass it on your own, perhaps the MSF *course* may teach
    you something useful about riding a bike?

    -- Michael
    Michael, Aug 20, 2003
  6. Michael Glover

    jim stinnett Guest

    Wasn't that you that posted:
    jim stinnett, Aug 20, 2003
  7. Michael Glover

    JB Guest

    I signed up for the class for a number of reasons but two days after I
    completed it, a car popped out of a driveway (hidden by a truck) right
    in front of me blocking my lane as a van was approaching in the
    on-coming lane. With no room to stop, I swerved around the car and back
    into my lane - neatly avoiding both hazards. Then I pulled into a gas
    station to change my shorts and I realized the class paid for itself.

    Of course now that I tell that story, $100 sounds like a rip-off just to
    learn how to swerve safely ... I mean chicks dig guys in wheelchairs,
    don't they?
    JB, Aug 20, 2003
  8. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    Oh now, that's TOO funny! A guy on a big-ass Harley throws a temper
    tantrum cuz he couldn't pass the driving test on his own bike!

    Well, Michael, how long have you had that thing, and how long have you
    been riding? Not long enough, evidently. If you were an experienced
    rider, you'd know how important the safety course is. Driving skills are
    acquired by long experience, and your attitude demonstrates a lack of
    awareness. It's people like you who really NEED the safety course,
    because you clearly overestimate your own ability, and that is a very
    dangerous attitude to hold. In fact, it will kill or maim you some day.
    I am not exaggerating, get your head straight, or you are going to die!

    You are going to get into an unexpected situation, and you'll sit there
    like a drooling idiot watching it unfold in slow motion. And I bet you
    wear a wee little beanie helmet like the rest of the Harley profile
    riders, don't you!

    One thing a motorcycle can teach you; arrogant and ignorant is no way to
    go through life! Unfortunately, the lesson is usually fatal.

    riding since 1976
    barbz, Aug 20, 2003
  9. which, I'll bet, a skilled river COULD it make around the DMV circle in,
    albeit not terribly gracefully.

    btw, they don't flunk you for not quite staying inside the line on a big
    bike, they flunk you for not showing smooth control over your machine,
    wobbling, putting a foot down, that sort of thing. I passed it on a big
    sport-touring BMW, which isn't known for tight turning circles either.
    John R Pierce, Aug 20, 2003
  10. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    I suspect he failed the DMV test and doesn't want to pay to take the MSF
    test. After buying a Hardley Ableson Heritage Softail, what's another $100?

    barbz, Aug 20, 2003
  11. Michael Glover

    Alan Moore Guest

    I'll have to admit I never tried it on a Harley, but I did take it on
    my Guzzi 850 T-3 with oversized handlebars. Negotiating the circle
    required that I sit back on the passenger seat, and steer one handed,
    but I managed it -- after having taken the MSF course.
    Yeah, but it's not a cruiser, nor was rattletrap (my guzzi).

    All in all, I'd say the original poster sounds as if he's "riding for
    a fall" -- or maybe "cruising for a bruising..."

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
    Alan Moore, Aug 21, 2003
  12. Michael Glover

    Alan Moore Guest

    About $90 more than he's got left, after buying the leather vest,
    beanie helmet, and miscellaneous H-D Logo accessories...

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
    Alan Moore, Aug 21, 2003
  13. Michael Glover

    Alan Moore Guest

    You got the idea. There's so much poser potential there that you
    wonder how he ever found the time or the inclination to get himself to
    the DMV for the test!

    Al Moore
    DoD 734
    Alan Moore, Aug 21, 2003
  14. Michael Glover

    Rich Guest

    I thought it said "troll" ;-}
    R, UB
    Rich, Aug 21, 2003
  15. Michael Glover

    barbz Guest

    Well, that too...<G> But far be it for me to pass up an opportunity to
    exercise my creative writing skills! lol...

    barbz, Aug 22, 2003
  16. Michael Glover

    mike Guest

    Go buy one then.
    mike, Aug 26, 2003
  17. Sometimes its hard to contain oneself - like the classic Webtv user who
    can't unlock the caps. You have the harley RUBs who wonder if it's ok
    to to subject their ride to the fog. Around here we I think we do have
    more of the squid cliches instead - you need to go to LA to see the
    faux hog riders en masse.

    and yes, buying a 700lb Harley as your first bike and trying to
    pass the DMV test on it will subject you to ridicule. It can be
    done, but there are better routes.
    Jason O'Rourke, Aug 26, 2003
  18. Michael Glover

    mike Guest

    I have 2 neighbors that ride HDs. They turn their backs to me when I
    ride by and ignore my repeated waves.

    I guess I should just stop and ask them if they want to ride with me?

    I think barbz kinda like me, we are not hostile, we just like winding
    people up.
    mike, Aug 26, 2003
  19. There are people like this in all groups.. I've met Honda people like
    this. On the other hand I go to the local Harley event once a year and
    have a blast looking at the bikes.. When the Harley people find out I
    ride a suzi they never treat me any different, they just dig the fact I
    like their ride.
    This is a good idea.. Make the approach.

    Ya, I guess :)

    Steve Johnson, Aug 26, 2003
  20. Actually, thinking back, it doesn't help that we have all these assholes
    with straight pipes riding through residential neighborhoods at 1am,
    revving the engines high. (for better or worse, I live near several
    bars on 24th st)

    No other bike segment has bought into the loud pipes BS to the same degree.
    Maybe there's one good benefit out of the EPA's interest in prohibiting
    non OEM exhaust systems.
    Jason O'Rourke, Aug 26, 2003
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