Do I need to do the CBT?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by R D S, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. R D S

    R D S Guest

    Looking at when my license was issued it seems I can ride a 125 legally
    without doing CBT.

    However my ins. co. will only insure if CBT has been done.

    If anyone is aware of a company that will insure me to ride a bike please
    let me know, I really cant be arsed spending a freezing cold day at a
    training centre.

    Rick
     
    R D S, Nov 9, 2006
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    Ace Guest

    No, you can't. Is it a very old licence? Perhaps it was issued before
    the CBT became a requirement.
    Tough. "It's the law."

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  3. R D S

    R D S Guest

    Issued in 1990.

    I am almost certain that when I passed my test I was allowed to ride a 125
    without a test.
    When CBT came in licences already out there still allowed such, although
    getting insurance seems to be an issue.
     
    R D S, Nov 9, 2006
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  4. R D S

    R D S Guest

    From 2 different bike training sites.

    'If you have a full car licence, you are automatically entitled to ride a
    moped without L-Plates although if the licence relates to a car test passed
    on or after 1 February 2001 you must first complete a CBT course and obtain
    a DL196 Certificate to validate your entitlement.'
     
    R D S, Nov 9, 2006
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  5. In uk.rec.motorcycles, R D S belched forth and ejected the following:
    Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, one was only allowed to ride a 125
    for two years before taking a test.
     
    Whinging Courier, Nov 9, 2006
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  6. R D S

    Iridium Guest

    Good, so you can ride a 50cc bike then, but not a 125cc.
     
    Iridium, Nov 9, 2006
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  7. R D S

    R D S Guest

    I was reading here under Mopeds and Motorcycles.

    http://www.bikerland.co.uk/Motorcycles/License.htm

    It seems there may be some formatting issues, but it led me to believe that
    a 125cc was covered under moped.
     
    R D S, Nov 9, 2006
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  8. R D S

    Beav Guest

    Now take the time to look up the definition of "moped". If you see 125cc
    anywhere in the description, you're in, but you won't, so you're stuck with
    riding a moped (50cc maximum)

    without L-Plates although if the licence relates to a car test passed
    Still doesn't allow you to ride a 125. Pass your CBT (actually, it's more
    like "attend" the CBT course and of you don't fall off, you're good for 2
    years on a 125.


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    Beav, Nov 9, 2006
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  9. R D S

    Beav Guest

    Back before then , you could ride one forever (a 250cc too). I think the
    dinasours may still be roaming too as you can still only ride for a couple
    of years if you don't take your test. Or you fail it, if you do.


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    Beav, Nov 9, 2006
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    Pip Guest

    There may well be formatting issues, but this si the relevant section
    to you:

    "Mopeds and Motorcycles
    A moped is a motorcycle that has the following features:
    Maximum Design speed not exceeding 50kmh (approx. 31mph).
    An engine capacity no greater than 50cc."

    The "learner motorcycle" is up to 125cc and 11KW power output, and for
    that you will need a Cat A or Light Motorcycle licence, for which you
    will have to do a CBT.
     
    Pip, Nov 9, 2006
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  11. R D S

    Colin Irvine Guest

    A moped is a motorcycle that has the following features:
    Maximum Design speed not exceeding 50kmh (approx. 31mph).
    An engine capacity no greater than 50cc.
    Can be moved by pedals, if the moped was first used before 1 August
    1977

    A learner motorcycle has the following features:
    Engine up to 125cc.
    Power output not exceeding 11kW.Licences

    Seems clear to me.
     
    Colin Irvine, Nov 9, 2006
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  12. R D S

    R D S Guest

    Did you get some new specs?
     
    R D S, Nov 9, 2006
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  13. R D S

    Colin Irvine Guest

    ITYM "Thanks for all the help, guys. It looks like I was wrong".
     
    Colin Irvine, Nov 9, 2006
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  14. R D S

    R D S Guest

    I'm often wrong, erm... thanks for all the help guys.
     
    R D S, Nov 9, 2006
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    Molly Guest

    I'm afraid you must.
     
    Molly, Nov 9, 2006
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    <g> Good luck with the CBT!
     
    Colin Irvine, Nov 9, 2006
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  17. R D S

    Beav Guest

    Not yet, too bloody busy. Anyway, I told you I'd be getting them from you
    and I will. One of these days:)


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    Beav, Nov 10, 2006
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  18. When did the 250 limit come in? I've a feeling it was sometime in the
    60s and before that you could ride anything of any size forever with L
    plates.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 10, 2006
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  19. In uk.rec.motorcycles, Grimly Curmudgeon belched forth and ejected the
    following:
    I don't know if it's still possible but the way round it when we were
    kids was to bolt a sidewinder onto the side of a GPZ900 or whatever took
    your fancy.
     
    Whinging Courier, Nov 10, 2006
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  20. R D S

    Beav Guest

    It didn't so much "coome in" as "went out". I can't remember the exact year,
    but it was either the late 7's or early 90's. Back in the 60's when I
    started riding, the bike of choice for learners was the Triumph Tiger Cub or
    the BSA C-12 and C-15. The Cub was 200cc and the Beezers were 250 and there
    wasn't a CBT back then either, you just bought one and rode it.


    I've a feeling it was sometime in the
    Just up to 250's. A test was necessary for anything else but you COULD ride
    a combo of any size with "L" plates attached. The test was extraordinarilly
    difficult though. You had to ride around the block and not kill the examiner
    when he stepped out into tthe road forcing an emergency stop.

    Not many were killed either, so the riding back then must've been SO much
    better than today:) Either that, or seeing the examiner walk lazily out into
    the almost traffic free street two hundred yards away helped.



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    Beav, Nov 10, 2006
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