Dorna-MSMA open the can of worms

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Julian Bond, Feb 11, 2010.

  1. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    This stuff changes from day to day. But as of today the rules for MotoGP
    2012 look like being

    1) 800 Prototypes as now
    - 800cc
    - 21 litres of fuel
    - 150Kg
    - 6 engines per season

    2) 1000cc Prototypes
    - 1000cc
    - Max 81mm bore
    - 21 litres of fuel
    - 150Kg
    - 6 engines per season

    3) 1000cc Production based
    - 1000cc
    - Max 81mm bore
    - 24 litres of fuel
    - 153Kg
    - >6 engines per season. Perhaps unlimited.

    Now 1) and 2) may be the same if all the current and 2011 800cc
    prototypes have a bore less than 81mm. Anyone know if this is true now?

    And the can of worms:- What is a production engine? What is a modified
    production engine? Is it perhaps just the cases that have to be from a
    WSBK homologated Superbike?

    And how many is greater than 6 for the engines limit on production based
    engines?

    The next iteration of all this is due Feb 17 with a draft rule book.
     
    Julian Bond, Feb 11, 2010
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    pablo Guest


    Shouldn't the production based at least get a weight break or
    something? Is it just to fill the field at much lower cost to make
    satellite teams even less competitive? :)

    ....pablo
     
    pablo, Feb 13, 2010
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  3. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    +3 Kg and 24 litres instead of 21 litres

    Seems to suggest that Production based are expected to be inherently
    more powerful but less efficient. Which is a bit bizarre. Put GP
    Magnetti Marelli electronics on an Aprilia RSV and it will still be less
    efficient? I wonder who they are targeting for a production based
    engine. Aprilia-BMW? And Honda since they were the one that had a
    spokesperson mentioning tuning a Blade engine as an alternative to
    building a 1000 prototype.
     
    Julian Bond, Feb 13, 2010
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  4. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    Does this make any sense?

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    It was confirmed last December that the maximum engine capacity would
    increase to 1000cc for the start of the 2012 season with a maximum
    number of four cylinders and a maximum bore width of 81mm, and on
    Wednesday the GP Commission announced further specifications.

    These will include a minimum weight of 153kg for bikes over 800cc and
    150kg for machines up to 800cc, a maximum number of six engines
    available for use by each rider, and a fuel tank capacity of 21 litres.

    There was also an announcement about the exception for private teams,
    who will have different limitations. These will be that each rider will
    be able to use 12 engines per season, and with a fuel tank capacity of
    24 litres. This new regulations will be further defined by the end of
    May, with these teams to be referred to as Claiming Rule Teams (CRT).
     
    Julian Bond, Feb 17, 2010
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  5. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    Yup. On reflection nothing really happened today, just that we'll have
    1000cc prototypes with 3kg extra weight. Defining CRT has been put off
    till the end of May.
     
    Julian Bond, Feb 17, 2010
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