Double lines

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by conehead, Jan 17, 2004.

  1. conehead

    conehead Guest

    The winding sections of the Tasman Hwy, which goes up the east coast of
    Tasmania, have been getting new paintwork. Many possible overtaking areas
    that had dotted lines are now double-lines.

    This means that the places where cars can legally overtake slow vehicles are
    being reduced to the straight, flat safe stretches. That would be fine, but
    the slow vehicles speed up to 100/110 on the 'safe, secure' bits, and you
    have to speed to get past them. Naturally, those are the places where speed
    cameras and radar are concentrated, so at best only a couple of cars get
    past before the queue gets held up again.

    The net result seems to be that there are long (by our standards) queues of
    cars all tailgating at about 30kmh below the limit, too scared to pass, and
    getting more and more frustrated. I predict some massive pile-ups as a
    direct result of this "road-safety".

    Bikes are still able to pass (illegally) pretty well anywhere by breaking
    the law and crossing double lines in the hills, but it won't be long before
    the cars start doing it too.

    The only benefit is that once you're past the slow vehicle, you've got a lot
    of empty road to play with before the next bunch.
     
    conehead, Jan 17, 2004
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  2. Yeah - I've noticed more and more of this happening. It's almost like
    they assume that if dotted lines are there then we _will_ pass
    regardless of safety, instead of "there are dotted lines, if it is
    safe and your vehicle is capable of passing, you may do so".

    Some of the "don't pass areas" are getting absurd, yet you turn up on
    a different road and the area marked as OK to pass, I wouldn't attempt
    even on the Busa ...

    Came down that way last weekend from Coles Bay. Seems at least the
    Bust Me Gall hill resurface is cleaning up nicely.

    Cheers



    -------------
    Kevin Gleeson
    Technical Director
    Blue Rocket Productions
    Hobart, Tasmania, Australia
    www.blue-rocket.com.au
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Jan 17, 2004
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  3. conehead

    Tool Guest

    Just spent a pleasant few weeks back in Tassie at Hellyer with family. The
    Wynyard-Stanley section sucks more big time now the log truck traffic has
    increased and some OK passing spots have been marked out.

    Other dumb place has always been the Wynyard bypass. Buggers me why it's a
    constant curve (obviously cheaper) making eastbound passing
    interesting/impossible.
     
    Tool, Jan 17, 2004
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  4. conehead

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Double-white-line-itus is a rampant disease in S.E. Queensland too.
    --
    Clem

    (snip)
     
    Knobdoodle, Jan 17, 2004
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  5. conehead

    glitch1 Guest

    Welcome to Victoria !!!
    When was Tassie annexed?
    Wait till you get the rest of the "Safety" measures :(

    pete
     
    glitch1, Jan 17, 2004
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  6. conehead

    boonarga Guest

    conehead wrote in
    Seeing as how most of us ignore solid lines, I can't see any problem.
    If it's safe, go past.
     
    boonarga, Jan 17, 2004
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  7. Somewhere on a Federal Gov.Transport site, there was a statement to the
    effect that the speed limits were too fast for the concentration of traffic
    on roads in Aust.

    The agreed Fed/States solution was to slow down the speed of the traffic,
    so as to cope with the congestion without accidents, as the quality &
    quantity of road maintenance was deliberately being underfunded to sustain
    the higher speed limits, due to lack of funds to allocated to transport
    inferstructure.

    If the higher speed limits + increasing traffic = accidents= increased calls
    for funding (Black Spot fixes).

    Logically, by stopping overtaking from happening by placing double lines
    where 'overtaking' smashes may occur, Government doesn't have to fund road
    improvements, because there will be no accidents.

    Hence to lock in the non overtaking, place speed camera's etc in the only
    overtaking places.
    Those who speed, and silly enough get caught, only add to the revenue
    stream, end of story.

    So the brainwashing, about "every K over is a killer" crap.

    The Governments of Aust. do NOT know how to fund road replacement across the
    board.
    When was the last time anyone can remember seeing a main road in any capital
    city being ploughed up with a grader down to the road base and the road re
    built, rather than patched and a overseal applied ?
    Then multiply the cost and traffic dislocation across the Nation, and the
    mind boggles.

    So get out the Man with the red flag & lantern, or tell the Pollies that you
    are prepared to pay more tax to fund safer higher speed roads, to return the
    traffic concentration back to the levels of 40 + years ago.

    30 years ago, you were lucky to see a car up the Mt Nebo Rd in Brisbane once
    every hour on a Sunday, now every few minutes, you are passing other
    vehicles in the opposite direction so it seems.

    Gov.Answer: paint more double lines, police it to the limit, and the problem
    will go away!
    And remember that Canberra holds all the purse strings, and the States will
    do as they are told, or lose funding, and no state will do that will they
    now?. So paint flows in all states, on all roads.

    Rob.
     
    Getting Slower & Slower !, Jan 18, 2004
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  8. conehead

    Goaty Guest

    You still don't get it ... Victoria is a Tasmanian colony. Read the
    history books. The original Victorian settlers gave up in disgust and
    went to Tassy. It took them about 30 years to work up the courage to
    come back to this dump.

    Cheers
    Goaty
     
    Goaty, Jan 18, 2004
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  9. conehead

    Nev.. Guest

    Well if you want a "capital city" example, Spencer street, southbound, north
    of Latrobe St. That's probably less than 1.5 km from the GPO :)

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Jan 19, 2004
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  10. conehead

    glitch1 Guest


    And you know exactly why, too:
    Cascade still makes good beer :)

    Now, that the stuff get's imported into Vic...
    :)
    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Jan 19, 2004
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  11. conehead

    Nev.. Guest

    That would make Tasmania a Victorian colony wouldn't it?

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Jan 19, 2004
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  12. Must have been really stuffed,or were they digging up the tram tracks, and I
    meant in recent time, not when your mother pushed you in a prambulator.
    Rob.
     
    Getting Slower & Slower !, Jan 19, 2004
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  13. conehead

    Nev.. Guest

    My map doesn't show any tram tracks north of LaTrobe St.. and I was talking
    about last week :p

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Jan 19, 2004
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  14. conehead

    conehead Guest

    Are there still trams in Flinders Lane?
     
    conehead, Jan 19, 2004
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  15. conehead

    Moike Guest

    conehead wrote:

    Of course, have been for many years.

    Moike
    (ex-connie)
     
    Moike, Jan 19, 2004
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  16. conehead

    Goaty Guest

    Only if they had a continuing settlement in Vic. The absence of such
    just makes it a mistake!

    Cheers
    Goaty
     
    Goaty, Jan 19, 2004
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  17. glitch1 said....

    gl> And you know exactly why, too:
    gl> Cascade still makes good beer :)

    gl> Now, that the stuff get's imported into Vic...

    Which "Cascade"? I have a headache today because of Cascade Premium,
    which a mate who lives on the Gold Coast, makes at the CUB brewery
    there. That and the light, which I should've drunk last night....
     
    Martin Taylor, Jan 21, 2004
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