Downshifting during emergency stop

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by BGN, Sep 8, 2005.

  1. Dunno if it's frowned upon or not, but I do block downshifts all the
    time. But my bike fits 6 gears between 0 and 70mph, so I feel it is kind
    of necessary to do block gearchanges if I'm doing any more than gliding
    idly to a standstill.
     
    Lemmiwinks, The Gerbil King, Sep 9, 2005
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    Scraggy Guest

    The essence is to be in the correct gear for whatever speed/intention that
    you have. Which, as others have already said, allows you the option to
    accelerate should the situation change and you have to replan your
    intentions. So, unless you have unlimited power available, in , say top gear
    then changing down sequentially or block (where possible) is advisable.

    YMMV
     
    Scraggy, Sep 9, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    The newer BMWs with EVO brakes have SFA braking with the engine off. Too
    clever by half.
     
    platypus, Sep 9, 2005
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    wessie Guest

    platypus emerged from their own little world to say
    Intermittently, some have SFA brakes with the engine ON, whilst hurtling
    towards a STOP sign.
    I prefer fuckwitted.
     
    wessie, Sep 9, 2005
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    platypus Guest

    The R80RT never caused me too much anxiety. Although I am used to
    white-knuckle braking on a daily basis.
    "Shake the hand that braked a Z200 from 30 to a stop in under a quarter
    mile..."
     
    platypus, Sep 10, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    Interesting. I was told I'd fail if I stalled (same with the car) cos it
    shows you're not in proper control and you can't get out of the way of the
    idiot that's piling up behind you.


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    Catman, Sep 10, 2005
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    BGN Guest

    During a test I feel I shouldn't stall the bike during an emergency
    stop. In Real Life I don't think it matters that much. I've never
    stalled it during an emergency stop IRL or on a test.
     
    BGN, Sep 10, 2005
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    Ace Guest

    You've got that all arse about face, I reckon. Only on bikes with
    Power-Assisted braking would the fact of the engine turning make any
    diference to the braking, as it would with cars. But in any event, if
    you didn't pull the clutch in the engine would still be turning until
    you'd reached a complete stop, so the servo would also be active.
    Whoever told you that was talking out of their backside. Of course, if
    you can keep the motor running then all the better, but _no_way_ would
    you fail, or even be marked down on, a test for failing to do so.

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    Ace, Sep 10, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    And that, children, is why a sensible rider should ride with the balls
    of the feet on the pegs - especially halfway round a corner when there
    will be no need to use any foot controls providing the rider is even
    slightly competent.

    Additionally, should the angle of lean be such (and there's no earthly
    reason why it should not) that the peg may graze the tarmac, the
    errant toe will not be dragged (or even pulled off the peg) - or in
    extreme circumstances be trapped under a foot control or rammed up
    beneath the gearshift, causing an inadvertent upshift. One never
    knows when the angle of lean will have to be increased, should a
    corner tighten or an obstruction appear and it therefore behoves the
    competent rider to be prepared for such eventualities before they
    occur. Dib dib dib.

    Apart from anything else, with the balls of the feet on the pegs it
    obviates the rider looking like a right wombat from behind, plates of
    meat dangling out at 45 degrees. This particularly applies to the
    larger rider who is equipped, unsurprisingly, with oversized feet.
     
    Pip, Sep 10, 2005
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    Muck Guest

    Aye, so it does. These days I put the balls of my feet on the pegs, plus
    I'm less twitchy now I don't work in IT any more. :)
     
    Muck, Sep 10, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    Pip wrote:

    <waves>

    I'm learning. Honest guv
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    Catman, Sep 10, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    It is, of course, entirely possible, nay probable, that they were talking as
    you suggest.

    TBH should I get into an emergency stop scenario I'm really not going to GAF
    if I stall it........
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    Catman, Sep 10, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    Just out of interest, how many emergencies have you had in your riding
    career? It seems like a worryingly high number........
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    Catman, Sep 10, 2005
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    Badger Guest

    The element of fun increases when you have a pillion who simply hasn't
    taken on board what you told them at the outset, and consequently has
    their feet so far forward that you can't get your own foot far enough
    back.

    They seem to get the hang of it after the third set of increasingly
    hard kicking though.
     
    Badger, Sep 10, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    Aye. Bang everything on as hard as poss, as early as poss. Get the
    plot to a halt and if it stalls and you're about to become strawberry
    jam, jump and run for it.
     
    Pip, Sep 10, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    <waves back>

    I had to learn to do this when I started riding the RF, which has the
    most godawful riding position in the world - pegs too low and too far
    forward, for a start. Then I found with feetses on pegses that I was
    better balanced, could move around much more easily (and I'm no
    monkey) and that peg-weighting could be played with. Not only that,
    but it became instinctive to lock heels up and into heel plates and
    knees into tank - and very simple to move feet to controls and back
    again without thinking about it.

    That made me at least 10% quicker everywhere.
     
    Pip, Sep 10, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    Bruised but educated dipshits - result.
     
    Pip, Sep 10, 2005
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    BGN Guest

    It depends if it's hot and sunny and if I'm paying more attention to
    the talent on show than the road. I remember coming scarily close to
    mating with the rear of some horrid caravan twice in five minutes, the
    second time around thinking "I don't think I can stop in time, I'll
    just get off as much speed as possible" while looking for the softest
    part of the rear to become intimate with through Dymchurch.

    The number of 'oops' moments far outweigh the proper BUGGER IT
    moments.
     
    BGN, Sep 10, 2005
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    petrolcan Guest

    petrolcan, Sep 10, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    I just don't like looking like a wombat [1] like I did in the last photo
    that Essex Police took of me :(

    [1] Albeit a black clad, stylish wombat.....

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    Catman, Sep 10, 2005
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