Drive or ride?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Muck, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. Muck

    Ace Guest

    But that's changed now as well, ever since F1 changed to auto-clutch
    paddle-shifters. If it's good enough for them...

    Unless you consider any modern high-performance car so equipped to not
    be 'proper'.

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    Ace, Aug 6, 2007
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    darsy Guest

    Hog drives a 911 - what on earth would he know about modern high-
    performance cars?
     
    darsy, Aug 6, 2007
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  3. Muck

    Ace Guest

    Ultimately they lack the 'feel' and timing of a proper manual change,
    but if you're changing up you can just keep the throttle nailed for
    max. acceleration. I'd always prefer a manual myself, but may have to
    relent on the next car, as it seems that none of the cars in the frame
    come with proper manual gearboxes any more.
    Yeah, I imagine that's true. In real life I want to be as smooth and
    controlled as I can, rather than going all-out for the fastest change.

    Having said that, the big-engined dodge/chrysler's that I've driven
    have standard auto boxes that I was actually quite happy with, so go
    figure.

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    Ace, Aug 6, 2007
  4. Muck

    Ace Guest

    Ssshh, you're frighten the fish.
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    Ace, Aug 6, 2007
  5. Muck

    Hog Guest

    My 996 Carrara 4 was tiptronic 5 speed and TBH it was flawless but that's a
    fully auto box not an electronic clutch. The semi manual type box on the
    M3's felt like a dog by comparison.
     
    Hog, Aug 6, 2007
  6. Muck

    Hog Guest

    <**** **** ****>
    I didn't have any breakfast
     
    Hog, Aug 6, 2007
  7. Muck

    Beav Guest

    It works for me too.


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    Beav, Aug 6, 2007
  8. Muck

    Beav Guest

    There are already cars that are regarded (by some) as "proper" sprotscars
    with auto boxes these days. I'm thinking SL Mercs, Jags and Beemers. I don't
    think the MX-5 is available as an auto though :)


    Who knows for sure what the future holds. Auto sprotbikes certainly wouldn't
    surprise me.


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    Beav, Aug 6, 2007
  9. Muck

    Beav Guest

    Most flappy paddle changes are too slow, but they're improving and there's
    now (fucked if I can remember which one mind) that can change in
    milliseconds.
    Not unless tracks require a slow gear change.


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    Beav, Aug 6, 2007
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    Hog Guest

    Wallowing overweight pigs, hardly true sprotcars ;o)

    SL 65 AMG = 2385kg

    (Carerra S = 1820)

    did you see my post re paintwork?
     
    Hog, Aug 6, 2007
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    Ben Guest

    The DSG box in the VW Golf can change faster than the manual. The
    0-60 time of the DSG is faster than the manual.
     
    Ben, Aug 6, 2007
  12. Muck

    Snowleopard Guest

    On Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:52:03 GMT, "platypus"
    She's a better actress in her own language (IYSWIM).
     
    Snowleopard, Aug 6, 2007
  13. Muck

    Muck Guest

    I hope so, it'll make life easier for me if I've still got probs when
    I'm able to buy a sports bike. It's not like the system is a full auto
    with torque converter, still got a proper gearbox and wet clutch.
    Thinking of fully auto bikes brings that Honda 400 auto Superdream to
    mind. I'd rather have my scooter thanks.
     
    Muck, Aug 6, 2007
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    Guzzi Convert. I don't *think* there's a clutch lever on those.
     
    Pip Luscher, Aug 6, 2007
  15. Muck

    Hog Guest

    Proper torque converter on those IIRC
     
    Hog, Aug 6, 2007
  16. Muck

    Muck Guest

    If Guzzi electrics are anything like Gilera electrics, then no thanks.
    :)
     
    Muck, Aug 6, 2007
  17. Muck

    Muck Guest

    Ahh. Not as good as a proper bike gearbox.
     
    Muck, Aug 6, 2007
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    sweller Guest

    There's a hand brake - no honestly and the mounting points can be found
    on all the other rear disc machines too. Small cable operated caliper
    independent of the main hydraulic one.

    If you look just under the rear calliper you can see the mounting points
    on the brake bracket.
    http://sweller.dynalias.org/images/guzzi-010706.jpg

    Made by Sachs - replaced the clutch. Still had a two speed heel and toe
    manual change.
     
    sweller, Aug 6, 2007
  19. Muck

    sweller Guest

    They're pretty good. I've certainly had very little trouble from my 28
    year old machine's. It's also an ex police bike with some odd
    non-standard police type stuff.

    The lego type light switch died a few years ago and the kill switch
    connector block went green - that's about it.

    A crappy crimp on bullet connector gave me some grief with the rear light
    until I did the job properly.

    The Guzzi electrics thing is a bit of a myth. They're the same as
    everything else at that age.
     
    sweller, Aug 6, 2007
  20. Muck

    Muck Guest

    That's comforting to know. My Gilera was sitting for a while, I think
    that's why it has had some issues maybe. I think I may go through the
    electrics, depending on time, and rewire the whole thing in a logical
    way.
     
    Muck, Aug 6, 2007
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