Drive or ride?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Muck, Aug 3, 2007.

  1. Muck

    Beav Guest

    Like I said, "some", but I'm sure there are others which are in contention.
    Nooo, but I'll have a look for it.


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Aug 6, 2007
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  2. Muck

    NickNoxx Guest

    What makes a 'proper' auto box then?
     
    NickNoxx, Aug 6, 2007
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  3. Muck

    Beav Guest

    Oh, I think things have moved on since those days.


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Aug 6, 2007
  4. Muck

    Beav Guest

    Before I'd embark on that task, I'd check, clean and "Vaseline" all the
    connectors and switches I could find.


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Aug 6, 2007
  5. Muck

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Well, I wouldn't recommend getting a Quota - they use a Ducati
    regulator and alternator and yes, I've got through one of each, though
    it was from corrosion in both cases.
     
    Pip Luscher, Aug 6, 2007
  6. Generally; epicyclic gears with brake bands and some form of torque
    converter or fluid drive - lends itself to remote control very easily.
    Attempts to automate or remote control conventional coggy boxes have
    usually fallen short of perfection.
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    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 7, 2007
  7. Not fully auto. Nor was the Guzzi Convert. Two-speed systems, both.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 7, 2007
  8. Muck

    sweller Guest

    aaah, Wilsons Epicyclic Gearbox and the Derby Lightweight:
    http://www.railcar.co.uk/his100-109/108intro.htm

    Still had to manually change gear though. I suppose a train driver is a
    form of remote control.
     
    sweller, Aug 7, 2007
  9. Muck

    Muck Guest

    A torque converter and an epicyclic gearbox would be a good start.
     
    Muck, Aug 7, 2007
  10. Muck

    Muck Guest

    Well, it's just not wired very well.. Also, I'd like to modify the
    wiring to put a standard generic reg / rec in there. The only reason
    this Gilera has an expensive one, is it has a switch inside to turn on
    the power to the auto choke and carb heater when there is output from
    the generator. Plus, there's a whole load of other stuff I can improve.
     
    Muck, Aug 7, 2007
  11. Muck

    Muck Guest

    >,
    says...
    You had to change manually, or did it do the changing for you?
     
    Muck, Aug 7, 2007
  12. Manually but clutchless. You could leave either in the higher of the two
    ratios all the time, but getaways were even more leisurely.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 7, 2007
  13. Muck

    Muck Guest

    >,
    says...
    Heh.. oh dear. Hence it didn't take off. :)
     
    Muck, Aug 7, 2007
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    platypus Guest

    Bi-lingual, is she?
     
    platypus, Aug 7, 2007
  15. Same as the Leyland Atlantean - engine and epi' 'box at the back,
    electro-mechanical or pneumatic gear selection from the front. Later
    ones were fully auto. Not huge boxes either, considering.
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    Dave
    GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

    Teach a man to fish and he and his pikey mates will have the
    river cleaned out in a day.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 7, 2007
  16. Muck

    Beav Guest

    Well rather thee than me, coz electrics really bollocks my head in.


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Aug 7, 2007
  17. Muck

    Muck Guest

    Electrics is simple when you've worked out how to keep the magic smoke
    in the wires. Having decent test meters, and a hand held oscilloscope is
    good too... as is a gas powered soldering iron. This scooter is about as
    complex as a toaster, which also helps, a lot.
     
    Muck, Aug 7, 2007
  18. Muck

    Beav Guest

    Oddly enough, I'm fine when it comes to adding things but I draw the line at
    anything that can release the magic smoke.
    That's as much use to me as a television with no picture.
    I've got any number of them. I'm an EXCELLENT hand at soldering, but someone
    needs to make sure I'm soldering the right wires together before they turn
    me lose.
    So that's me not getting a scooter then.
    It dun't help me at all :)


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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Aug 7, 2007
  19. Muck

    Muck Guest

    Ahh. I get the picture now.
    Heh.. still too complex? :) I've learned a lot about electrics recently
    by fixing them, and reading some excellent documentation that explains
    my electrical system in detail. No, it wasn't the HBoL.
     
    Muck, Aug 7, 2007
  20. Muck

    Beav Guest

    I managed to re-wire my VN and I've sorted a couple of Bandit and VFR
    charging systems out, but electrics still put the fear of god in me.

    I've learned a lot about electrics recently
    Yeah, I followed the wiring diagram fr the VN to the letter and then
    discovered that I should've use the American diagram coz there are
    differences. When I re did the small bit of re-wiring needed, I found I'd
    defeated the 6500 rpm rev limit the ignition module was setting. Result :)

    No, it wasn't the HBoL.

    I used the Clymers BoL. Not bad, but they've NO idea how to fit cam chains
    or time valves. Fucking good job I did or the motor would've been
    bollocksed.



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    Beav

    VN 750
    Zed 1000
    OMF# 19
     
    Beav, Aug 7, 2007
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