"A woman who held an apple while driving a car around a corner has been fined £60 and ordered to pay £100 costs. Sarah McCaffery was pulled over in December 2003 by police who mistakenly thought she was on her mobile phone. They spotted the fruit and issued her with a £30 ticket saying she was not in proper control of her Ford Ka. " http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4203375.stm Seems a bit "over zealous" or is it that once the trafpol had stopped her thinking she was using a mobile phone they did'nt like to admit they'd made a mistake? -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://www.arrivedeprived.org.uk/ K100RS SE F650 (not forgetting the SK90PY)
Sounds pretty reasonable to me. She was holding an apple in her right hand while negotiating a turn, ergo she couldn't have been holding the wheel properly.
Ace fumbled, fiddled and fingered: .... so changing gear in a left hand drive car, while turning is a "no no" then? -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://www.arrivedeprived.org.uk/ K100RS SE F650 (not forgetting the SK90PY)
I heard this one on the radio this morning and thought it was a bit OTT however had the bint crashed into someone killing them whilst eating said apple and possibly choked on it and died as well the uproar would have been huge. New laws forbidding the sale of apples to the driving public would have been passed, even carrying an apple in the car would get points and a fine not to mention the children the poor children imagine not being able to eat an apple whilst their parents drive them to and from school. An apple a day keeps the doctor away? Rubbish, bloody fruit of satan. See what that Eve has done for us, not to mention the bleeding snake! Adam should have kept it in his pants! -- Martin: "For a minute there, you bored me to death." VTR1000 Firestorm TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
Doesnotcompute fumbled, fiddled and fingered: Agreed but the principle of appears to be that if you have a hand off the wheel you are not in proper control of the vehicle. So whatever the reason, be it to hold an apple, operate a switch, change gear etc you hand is off the wheel. I'm not agreeing or condoning with either side on this it just seems a bit over the top when the officers could have had a word with her rather than a full blown court case. This style of policing is never going to be seen as much more than petty by the public. -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://www.arrivedeprived.org.uk/ K100RS SE F650 (not forgetting the SK90PY)
Steve Parry wrote: [snip] <tracy emin mode> It has provoked debate though and is therefore *art*. <temo/> Seriously though, it may make someone stop and think about tucking into a snack while driving or even make people think about the consequences of their actions whilst driving which isn't a bad thing. -- Martin: "For a minute there, you bored me to death." VTR1000 Firestorm TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
Steve Parry bored us all completely to death with wittery prose along the lines of: I tend to be in the right gear for making turns and rarely (IME) change gear whilst in a turn. But to throw it back your way. If she had the apple in her right hand and was changing gear int the turn, how was she controlling the car?
What sort of situations? Poor planning? Failure to read the road ahead? I'd have thought that the core argument is if you have something already in your right hand then how can you then use your left hand to indicate/change gear/etc when actually you need to? a'peel'ed and that's why there was an overblown court case complete with aerial photographs of the scene. This waste of money is the real story IMO.
Steve Parry emerged from their own little world to say That's not what the magistrate said. He acknowledged that removing a hand from the wheel is appropriate in some circumstances. The magistrate opined that the driver was not in full control of the vehicle, as her concentration was distracted by the apple. If the driver was changing gear then her action would be consistent with having full control of the vehicle. It was the driver that chose to go to court. She was offered a fixed penalty. Once that decision was taken the police were obliged to collect and present evidence to the same standard as any other case.
**** off you tedious ****. -- Please add "imo" to above post. Champ GSX-R 1000, GPz 750 turbo, ZX7RR Endurance Racer x 2 GYASB#0 BotToS#2 BOTAFO(T|F)#35 WG*#1 DFV#8 Team UKRM Racing : www.team-ukrm.com
Let's face it, it's *obvious* that she was nicked for being a fucking terrible driver, and this is all they could pin on her. It's fine by me.
It's possible that the police originally intended to do that but when they were met with "why aren't you out catching proper criminals, I pay your wages" or something similar they may have changed their approach. What's the whole story?
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sweller fumbled, fiddled and fingered: <snip> Well they certainly were'nt overworking themselves looking for stolen T reg Ducati 750's were they ;o) -- Steve Parry http://www.gwynfryn.co.uk http://www.arrivedeprived.org.uk/ K100RS SE F650 (not forgetting the SK90PY)
I think Trafpol were quite correct in their actions. I mean, a bloody apple ffs, surely everyone knows the only legal "on the move" snack is the humble Ginsters pastie.