Dry v Wet v Kerb Weight

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Marts, Feb 10, 2011.

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    Marts Guest

    In this week's issue of AMCN, a reader has written in to ask why AMCN lists the
    different weight measurements for different bikes and why can't it have the same
    weight type for all bikes.

    AMCN responded saying that each manufacturer who offer bikes for reviews do it
    differently and that it often can't get the bikes weighed.

    Fair enough. However, I'd like to know - what's the difference between wet and
    kerb weight?

    I first noticed this kerb weight thing when I read the first reviews of Honda's
    VFR1200. It listed the bike as around 260kg "kerb weight".

    Despite lots of Googling and question asking in various forums I never did find
    out how much it weighs compared to my dry weighted 217kg Blackbird...
     
    Marts, Feb 10, 2011
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    Nev.. Guest

    I'm pretty sure kerb weight and wet weight are the same measurement.
    Bike with a full radiator, sump and petrol tank, ready to ride.

    Nev..
     
    Nev.., Feb 10, 2011
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    At one extreme Guzzi list kerb weight which, in their case, is as ridden,
    with a full tank of fuel. I've also seen kerb weight as with 4 litres of
    fuel. The difference would be 20 litres or 14 kg for a Guzzi.

    Manufacturers that list dry weight generally mean, no fuel, no oils and no
    battery. Makes their bikes sound really light. A full tank of fuel will add
    14 kg for a 20 litre tank. Oils will add another five, and the battery at
    least eight, which will get your Bird to 244, not that much les than the
    VFR.

    When I had my first Guzzi I filled the tank and rode it to a weighbridge.
    Parked on the bridge and asked the guy how much. He said do you want to know
    how much it weighs or do you need a ticket? I said Huh? He said, it weighs
    241 kg but if you want that in writing I'll have to charge you $5. The
    brochure said it weighed 240 kg.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Feb 10, 2011
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    Marts Guest

    Theo Bekkers wrote...
    Thanks Theo, but I was more interested in how they worked out this new kerb
    weight standard.

    But, as for dry weight, if they're all weighed the same, at least there's a
    basis for comparison.

    Now, with kerb, wet and dry weight measurements I have no fucking idea any more
    (or some may say, "any less").

    And the bike mags could do us a better service by standardising their reviews.
    Lash out, buy a bloody weightometer and use it. Don't merely rely on press
    releases for their reviews.
     
    Marts, Feb 21, 2011
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    CrazyCam Guest

    Worth having a look at:-
    http://ols2.rta.nsw.gov.au/rvd/sear...c38KbxiObO0Schb0glbGmkTylN4?submitValue=start

    The RTA's weight numbers don't always agree with the manufacturer's
    quoted numbers, and I believe the RTA may actually weight a real life
    one. How much fuel, oil and coolant may be in it at the time.... <shrug>

    Sorry, I dunno how to make a wee URL.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    CrazyCam, Feb 21, 2011
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    Sandgroper Guest

    Sandgroper, Feb 22, 2011
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    Nev.. Guest

    And even if they had a standardised weight system, it still wouldn't be
    a level comparison, because two bikes of similar style and weight might
    have completely different weight distributions - CoG etc, eg a standing
    upright harley style 45° V-twin with a fuel tank mounted traditionally
    above the engine/frame vs a bike with a yamaha style leaning forward
    4cyl engine mounted very low and an under seat mounted fuel tank.

    Nev..
     
    Nev.., Feb 22, 2011
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