Ducati stolen

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SteveH, Dec 22, 2009.

  1. SteveH

    Catman Guest

    Damn! Of course. Foolish of me.


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  2. SteveH

    Catman Guest

    I don't think so. It would need *some* communication, of course.
    I'd agree.
    Or some kind of ticketing system?
    Yes, I can see that might be less good.
    This is beginning to seem less likely. Which is nice.


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  3. [...]
    Oh. Well, there goes my justification for the plod, then. Incompetent
    buggers. :)

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    That would make sense - if you don't have the manpower for a 24/7
    surveillance,
    then set up surveillance, call the landlord and/or owners, and then you
    can stop anybody coming for bikes and arrest the ones who turn out to be
    thieves.

    Well, they could have taken a sensible option or just go in and do same
    immediate
    damage. The second option was obviously way more fun. :->
     
    Leszek Karlik, Dec 28, 2009
  4. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    They only started thinking after I'd spoken to them every day (and on
    some days more than once) between Tuesday and Sunday, *including* a call
    on Christmas day.

    That's at least half a dozen phone calls, during which I never managed
    to speak to the same officer twice, which were all logged, and it took a
    senior officer to start asking questions before someone made the
    connection.
    Something really doesn't add up about their 'evidence' - yes, they
    managed to catch someone, but it would appear to be as a result of a
    scattergun approach, rather than being based on any solid evidence - I
    still don't have any explanation as to why it was my lockup which was
    raided, even though there are bikes being kept in at least 2
    neighbouring units.
     
    SteveH, Dec 28, 2009
  5. SteveH

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Honestly, ask for someone to come round and explain the series of
    events to you in person then be nice and tell them you understand it
    was a mistake and as long as they fix the doors properly that'll be
    the end of it.

    You could ask them if they'll accept responsibility if the garage gets
    raided again within a set time period (someone might have seen that
    the door was butchered and assume there was something valuable in
    there) and if they say no tell them that you're concerned their
    actions might lead to a future loss and you don't know what you should
    do but I don't think you'll get away with this because you could
    stitch them up big time.

    If they refuse to come round and explain everything then go tabloid on
    their arses but be prepared to suffer the consequences.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 28, 2009
  6. SteveH

    ogden Guest

    Evidently a reasonable-sized team looking at it then. And I'd expect
    shifts to chop and change a bit over the christmas period.
    Look, these aren't just plod, they're Welsh plod. I'm amazed they were
    able to operate the cutting gear in the first place, let alone play
    join-the-dots a few days later.
     
    ogden, Dec 28, 2009
  7. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Most of them weren't even on the team - they were mostly plod given the
    job of chasing up the paperwork and fielding calls - hence it was all
    supposedly logged on computer.
    It could be worse, it could have been South Wales Police, who are even
    more incompetent than my local force.
     
    SteveH, Dec 28, 2009
  8. SteveH

    sweller Guest

    To be honest life's too short. I don't like the police but winding
    myself into a frenzy just seems a waste of time.
     
    sweller, Dec 28, 2009
  9. SteveH

    Colin Irvine Guest

    I love this. The only bit they left out was that they had both stolen
    and recovered it.
     
    Colin Irvine, Dec 28, 2009
  10. SteveH

    antonye Guest

    I've typed it twice and this makes it the third time; I don't
    think they're going to understand how it works no matter how
    many times this gets pointed out to them.
     
    antonye, Dec 28, 2009
  11. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    I understand exactly how it works, but it doesn't compensate for the
    complete incompetence in their handling of the situation from the point
    at which they had both the address of my garage and knew I was the owner
    of the bike.

    I do also question the amount of damage done in order to gain access -
    seems someone was a little trigger happy with the angle grinder.
     
    SteveH, Dec 28, 2009
  12. SteveH

    JackH Guest

    The crime detection stats will look good, if nothing else. ;-)
     
    JackH, Dec 28, 2009
  13. SteveH

    JackH Guest

    Because at a lucky guess, they spoke to him on the 22nd when he phoned
    them in response to the note they put through his door to inform him
    they'd 'recovered' his bike and he then, IIRC, mentioned to them where
    the bike would have been if left where he'd last seen it, i.e: the
    lockup which they'd inadvertently raided?

    It therefore doesn't take a genius, assuming you're working from a
    semi decent log of events leading up to the conversation in question
    between Steve and plod taking place, to be able to add two and two
    together.

    I'm still putting my money on them hitting the wrong address - the
    pictures Steve has taken would suggest they cut one hole to have a
    looksee, then decided 'ah, there's a bike in here after all, so we
    must therefore have the right addy'.

    A wrong addy would also explain why they didn't put two and two
    together when they first spoke to Steve on the 22nd.

    Anyway, in reply to what you've pressed on this, the point is he's not
    griping about the actual raid, he's (justifiably) griping about the
    way that plod have seemingly not been able to tell the difference
    between their arse and their elbow since.

    Let's just hope the bike is in as good condition as when he last saw
    it, eh...
     
    JackH, Dec 28, 2009
  14. SteveH

    JackH Guest

    Yeah... I saw that episode of The Bill too.

    If you didn't see it, I suspect you'd be pleased to know it was 'the
    wog that done it', and that they banged him up.
     
    JackH, Dec 28, 2009
  15. SteveH

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    It's the Mr Angry from Middle Britain writing to the Daily Mail
    syndrome working its way out. It's obviously a **** up but at least
    the bike's safe, plod have admitted they fucked up and Steve will get
    a new garage door fitted before the bike's returned to him.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 28, 2009
  16. "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security,
    deserve neither liberty nor security."
     
    vulgarandmischevious, Dec 28, 2009
  17. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    But, but, but.... someone should do *something* ;-)

    I'm not convinced that the bike is in a safe place, from the
    conversation I had with the Inspector last night, either.

    We'll see just how apologetic they are tomorrow and how quickly they can
    get a hopefully undamaged bike back to me.
     
    SteveH, Dec 28, 2009
  18. SteveH

    Catman Guest

    Think if the children!

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    Catman, Dec 28, 2009
  19. SteveH

    JackH Guest

    It doesn't read like that to me.

    More that he's wondering why it took plod so long to put two and two
    together when they've had the very simplistic facts of A: 'we removed
    the bike from location A', and B: 'Owner has said the bike was last
    left in a lockup at... oh... location A.

    Not exactly unreasonable to question just how reliable their
    procedures are when they appear to have missed the 'bleeding obvious'
    for a week, is it?
     
    JackH, Dec 28, 2009
  20. SteveH

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I didn't mean Steve.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Dec 28, 2009
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