e-Pump

A few months ago I got a Woolworths Everyday Money Pay Pass credit
card so I can pay at the petrol pump.

Originally I got it as swine flu was starting to spread, so I wouldn't
have to stand in line with a load of coughing proles. What I have
found is, since I don't have to take my helmet off to pay, I really am
in and out of the petrol station in not much longer than the time it
takes to fill the tank. It has to be worth looking at if you don't
have an open face helmet and if there are e-pumps in your area.

It's free for the first year and $45 per year after. Normally I set a
reminder to dump fee-charging cards after about 10 months.

 

As I've mentioned before, I avoid filling up at Woolworths/Safeway as
I reckon they're about 10% smaller-litres than everyone else!
Pisshead used to like the Mobils 'cause they had that eftpos thingie
on the pumps but Mobil and BP are dear-as-poison around here so I
stick with my Shellcard and trudge off to the counter to pay...

 

Might have a look at that as I don't like taking my helmet off as the
full-face helmet takes too long to put back on,
the open face helmet which I wear in Summer, I was challenged to take it off
at a petrol station,
I answererd if you want your money, then you will let me keep my helmet on,
I walked out of there with my helmet still on my head after paying for the
petrol.
Not sure if that ruling is legal

 

I'm sure that just like most hotels, most clubs, some restaurants, just
about all RSL clubs, bowling clubs all do etc etc, petrol stations are
entitled to set their own dress code and refuse entry for
non-compliance. How that fits in with their business model for
consuming the goods prior to payment is another matter.

I left my wallet at home one night when I filled my car at the local BP
petrol station. The attendant wasn't interested in holding a phone or
ipod as collatoral while I nipped home to grab the card. He told me if
I left the site he would call the police. I laughed and asked him if he
thought I'd return before the police tracked me down (my car has
Victorian registration but is registered to a company name at a post
office box in suburban Sydney - no not the Melbourne Sydney). He wasn't
impressed when I returned a few minutes later and mentioned that I'd
been past the police station twice (it's on the next corner) and seen no
evidence of their hot pursuit of me.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

 

Weird! It probably helps if you happen to get someone senior on the
desk rather than a scrote.
I did it once (in Mt.Eliza, don't you know) and the guy behind the
counter just laughed (I might have told him he could siphon it back)
and he said "it happens all the time". He also said that they have
the number plates of all the cars on the security footage, and the
rule was that payment had to be made before midnight or the details
would be sent to the police. I didn't have to rush... but I didn't
forget to go back either.

NB: I suspect the reason that it happens all the time at Mt. Eliza BP
is because ME is chock full of olds. Recently the disaffected youth
of Mt. Eliza spray painted "**** OFF OLD PEOPLE" on the back wall of
Ritchie's, which made me laugh.

 

Weird! It probably helps if you happen to get someone senior on the
desk rather than a scrote.
I did it once (in Mt.Eliza, don't you know) and the guy behind the
counter just laughed (I might have told him he could siphon it back)
and he said "it happens all the time". He also said that they have
the number plates of all the cars on the security footage, and the
rule was that payment had to be made before midnight or the details
would be sent to the police. .....
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Similar experience here; I was rushing to meet someone and I only had $10
cash so I quickly put in $10 and went on my way.
After the meeting I went to the money-machine and upon opening my wallet saw
that the $10 was still there. ****!
It was already 3 hours later so I rushed back to pay for the fuel.
I was very apologetic but the attendant waved it off saying "It happens all
the time and we've got your details on camera in case you don't come back".
It was the Gold Coast though so maybe the same "Old Folks live here" caveat
applies.

 

How did he expect you to pay him without leaving site? Did you have your
hogwarts wand?

 

I filled up a 10L fuel can at my Caltex/Safeway once and I can confirm
the pump read 10L. BUT it may depend on the retailer. Don't trust
them. You might do the same test if you genuinely believe your tank
takes a bit extra to fill at one station. Then get a journalist for
the local paper to do it. I thought the way to cheat, instead of
tampering with the pump, was to add something cheap and soluble in
petrol to the reservoir under the forecourt - chip oil or something
like it.

 

If you enter the shop with the sole intention of paying for the fuel
you took, then they are so busy cross promoting chocolate at the
counter, and they forget to charge you for the fuel, I would like to
see the legal opinion on whether or not they can chase you for the
money for the fuel. You have done no wrong. I would consider the
fuel to be a gift from them.

As an analogy... Say you had filled up with $20 worth of fuel and
given them a $50 note and they gave you $45 change, which you stick in
your pocket without checking. Imagine then,20 mins later, the police
ring you and tell you that the petrol station attendant has reported
you for stealing $15 worth of fuel because you failed to accept the
correct change...

Nev..

 

True but contacting the coppers is still the simplest way for the
servo-attendant to alert you to the fact that you haven't paid.
Sure there's a bit of a stigma associated with the "theft" allegation
and a bit of a loophole there for anyone who wants to fight over $30
[did the attendant say "anything else?" when he bought the chocolate?]
but for 99% of the cases there's no problem and everyone's happy.

 

I did the same with a coke a couple of years ago. Didn't notice till
the Coppers phoned me at work a few days later. The Servo attendants
gave me a very dark look when I went back to pay. Did they think maybe
I looked stupid enough to go to a servo just to buy a coke?

Theo

 

Yes that's my problem with the whole process as well, a similar thing
happened to me a while back.

The servo droid stuffs up entering the amounts into his system then
charges my card an amount I have no way of knowing unless I specifically
ask for a paper receipt.

Then the police ring up and say "sorry they forgot to charge you for
this stuff when you paid for the other stuff" (which I have no problem
with).

Then when you go back into the servo the sales droid acts like; 1 you
did it (when it was their fault) and 2 that it was intentional instead
of saying something like "sorry, we forgot to charge you for XZY, thanks
for coming back".



G-S

 

I think my rather too subtley put point was that in hypothetical analogy
there would have been no call from the police.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

 

From what i've heard, in the majority of cases where the Weights &
Measures inspectors find discrepencies in the amount of fuel being
pumped, the discrepency is in the favour of the motorist, with the pump
actually understating the fuel pumped rather than overstating.

You're way behind the pros thinking of that. Safeway(Woolworths) petrol
stations were busted adding toluene (which at the time carried no excise
so was much cheaper than petrol) to their fuel tanks. Not that that is
a problem, because apparently most cars will run fine on the mix. Their
downfall was the toluene tanker arrived before the petrol tanker one
day, leading to a dozen or so cars refuelling on a very toluene rich
mix, which caused their engines to expire at or very near the site. Of
course the kneejerk reaction from the government to discourage this in
future was to add an excise to toluene to make it the same price as petrol.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

 

I filled up a 10L fuel can at my Caltex/Safeway once and I can confirm
the pump read 10L. BUT it may depend on the retailer. Don't trust
them. ....
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I've had no problems with the Caltex/Woolworths ones but the full-on
Woolworths one up the road gave me 12L in a 10L can and well over the tank
size on the bike I filled.
Missus reckons that she complained once when she got 55L into the 50L car
tank and they only charged her for 50.
I don't bother whinging; I just shop elsewhere and make sure I tell other
prospective customers.

 

You can get cream for that.

 

I hadn;t encountered this before til today. Must be a delayed thing
arriving in Tassie. Bought fuel and went to pay for it and droid asks
me whether I want to buy two chocolates. Confusion, no I just want
fuel. If I wanted chocolate I would have asked for it. What fucknuckle
came up with this idea?

 

Maybe the same one who said
"Do you want fries with that ?"

But again, maybe it is a ploy to get you to buy chocolate bars there, which
are at a highly inflated price
Pay $2.50 for a chocolate bar which you can buy in their own supermarket for
$1.15

 

That doesn't work so well for LPG. ;-)

Interestingly enough my truck's summertime range is less than what it
gets in winter, presumably because the liquid density is less for hot
LPG than cold. (It also takes a lot longer to fill because of the
higher gas pressure in the tank).


BTH

 

That doesn't work so well for LPG. ;-)

Interestingly enough my truck's summertime range is less than what it
gets in winter, presumably because the liquid density is less for hot
LPG than cold. (It also takes a lot longer to fill because of the
higher gas pressure in the tank).


BTH

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I found with LPG that if you filled in the early morning you could fit more
into the tank
Also the motor seemed to run better with the weather at cool or cold,
probably slightly damp as well
Seemed to get better performance as well as better economy