E85

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pete Fisher, Dec 12, 2006.

  1. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Someone recently posted an article about E85 bioethanol on the NHCA
    forum. Apparently even Morrisons are going to have E85 pumps soon and
    Greenfuels claim they will soon be offering "small scale commercial
    production systems".

    How long before Champ has a Saab BioPower 9-5 I wonder?
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    Pete Fisher, Dec 12, 2006
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  2. Through the front wheels? Rather you than me?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Dec 12, 2006
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  3. Pete Fisher

    peter Guest

    Well, whatever it is what yours does, theoretically, could be 20% more
    power and 16% more torque on E85 (suitably modified).

    <begins search of ACU handook with special reference to detailed
    discussion of fuel and fuel additives regulations, knowing that speed
    hill climbing is the last bastion of pure methanol breathing engines>
     
    peter, Dec 12, 2006
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  4. Pete Fisher

    peter Guest

    Bad form etc. but the ACU know alll about it seemingly:

    http://www.acu.org.uk/news/story.aspx?guid=c996dd40-5f2f-4258-aa28-eb9029788c74

    I wonder if a bit of 'lacing' is worth experimenting with?
     
    peter, Dec 12, 2006
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  5. Pete Fisher

    Hog Guest

    "through each axle"
     
    Hog, Dec 13, 2006
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  6. Pete Fisher

    Charlie Guest

    ISTR reading - and seeing on Top Gear, so it must be true - that the
    Koenigsegg produces [even] more BHP off BioPower than unleaded. Swedish
    car, Swedish 'petrol'.
     
    Charlie, Dec 13, 2006
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  7. Pete Fisher

    ogden Guest

    http://www.saabbiopower.co.uk/

    Looks like they only do cooking versions, mind, not the V6 mobile salon.
     
    ogden, Dec 13, 2006
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  8. Pete Fisher

    peter Guest

    Putting it very, very simply, to the limit of my understanding, ethanol
    has higher octane rating so advanced ignition timing (and loads more
    fuel metered as lower calorific value presumably). Fairly easy to
    achieve with fuel injection brain box ECUs. Also needs different valves
    and valve seats for long term use.
     
    peter, Dec 13, 2006
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  9. What do they mean by 'E85'? 85% Ethanol or (as in some places, arse for
    elbow) 15% Ethanol?
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 13, 2006
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  10. Pete Fisher

    ogden Guest

    85% Ethanol, 15% petrol.
     
    ogden, Dec 13, 2006
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  11. Ta. That's interesting...

    <fires up still>
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 13, 2006
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  12. Pete Fisher

    peter Guest

    I can recommend decent cane cutting knifes for your home plantation,
    although it appears you can make it out of almost anything you could
    also make beer wine or moonshine out of, plus some unlikeley candidates
    such as coppiced willow.
     
    peter, Dec 13, 2006
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  13. That's the magic; you can ferment all sorts of things. Things that were
    previously just binned, burnt or left to rot. Not a new idea, of course,
    but if there's a new gen of ethanol burners coming on line, some of the
    tricks and componentry will be v. useful.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Dec 13, 2006
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