Easter

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  1. Switters

    Switters Guest

    What determines the dates on which Easter falls within a given year? Bank
    Holidays and things like Xmas are pretty much set, but Easter seems all
    over the place and this year, being before the clocks even go forwards is
    just plain wrong.
     
    Switters, Feb 29, 2008
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  2. Some bloke, a wall planner, and some darts.
     
    Brownz \(Mobile\), Feb 29, 2008
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  3. Switters

    Derek Turner Guest

    In this country, the Synod of Whitby.

    It's quite simple: Easter day is the first Sunday after the first full
    moon after the spring equinox.

    Jesus was executed on the eve of Passover which is the 14th Nisan. The
    Jewish calendar is lunar so the 14th is always a full moon. Passover can
    be any day of the week but the church decided that Easter should be
    celebrated on the next Sunday (being the first day of the week, the day
    of resurrection).

    Note that when Pope Gregory re-organised the calendar neither the Jews
    nor the Orthodox took a blind bit of notice so passover and the orthodox
    Easter can be weeks away from the Gregorian one.

    Until quite recently the 'spring bank holiday' was on Whit Monday (50
    days after Easter Day and was also moveable.
     
    Derek Turner, Feb 29, 2008
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  4. Switters

    Domènec Guest

    I needed to know it (production forecasts for an electric power company) and
    learnt it... from a priest. It is somehow related to Christ's crucifixion
    ("out of the door, line on the left, one cross each") taking place on full
    moon according to tradition. Notice that at Easter the moon is always
    showing full.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter
    The rule has since the Middle Ages been phrased as Easter is observed on the
    Sunday after the first full moon on or after the day of the vernal equinox.
    However, this does not reflect the actual ecclesiastical rules precisely.
    The reason for this is that the full moon involved (called the Paschal full
    moon) is not an astronomical full moon, but an ecclesiastical moon. The
    difference is that the astronomical vernal equinox is a natural astronomical
    phenomenon, while the ecclesiastical vernal equinox is a fixed March 21.
    Easter is determined from tables which determine Easter based on the
    ecclesiastical rules described above, which approximate the astronomical
    full moon.
     
    Domènec, Feb 29, 2008
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  5. Switters

    Domènec Guest

    Let's flame Des, then!
     
    Domènec, Feb 29, 2008
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  6. And any Romans that we can find. Which (in this day and age) is
    probably most of Western Europe (the Romans were a busy lot and
    interbred with anyone they could!).

    *Especially* those that speak languages derived from Latin..

    Phil.
     
    Phil Launchbury, Feb 29, 2008
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  7. Switters

    Dentist Guest

    Chapter and verse, and a whole lot more, here:
    <http://www.tondering.dk/claus/cal/node3.html#SECTION00313100000000000000
    0>

    This is quite accurate:
    <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computus>

    and this will give you dates, without concern for why:
    <http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/easter.php>
     
    Dentist, Feb 29, 2008
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  8. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Surely Sunday is the last day of the week. "On the 7th day, God rested"
    or something like that.
     
    Switters, Feb 29, 2008
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  9. Switters

    Switters Guest

    At least let the thread get started before you invoke rule 306b.
     
    Switters, Feb 29, 2008
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  10. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Enlightened and grateful to all. Thanks.
     
    Switters, Feb 29, 2008
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  11. Switters

    muddy cat Guest

    The work-shy ****.
     
    muddy cat, Feb 29, 2008
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  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Switters
    Well quite, he could have let it run the full half-hour.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 29, 2008
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  13. Switters

    Ace Guest

    No he couldn't.

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    Ace, Feb 29, 2008
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  14. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ace
    That's just contradiction.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 29, 2008
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  15. Switters

    CT Guest

    It is, isn't it?[1]


    [1] Ha! I bet you didn't expect that.
     
    CT, Feb 29, 2008
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  16. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, CT
    You've spoilt it now.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 29, 2008
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  17. Switters

    CT Guest

    And there was me thinking that my footnote had it set up nicely for a
    Spanish Inquisition quote...
     
    CT, Feb 29, 2008
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  18. Switters

    muddy cat Guest

    I couldn't deice to play that line or the less familiar, "That's not
    right, that's not even wrong" ploy.
     
    muddy cat, Feb 29, 2008
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  19. Switters

    crn Guest

    No, Saturday is the original jewish sabbath. Sunday was used when
    christianity became legal in rome because it was the existing day off
    as per older roman practice. Assorted theological weasel words such as
    the day of resurection were added later to avoid complicated explanations
    of why existing holidays were adopted. See also xmas/midwinter etc etc.
     
    crn, Feb 29, 2008
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  20. Switters

    crn Guest

    Nobody expects the inquisition.
     
    crn, Feb 29, 2008
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