Eco-towns

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 24, 2008.

  1. WTF is an "eco-town"?

    Whatever, they will apparently have 15MPH speed limits:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7311548.stm

    More proof that those who spout this bollocks all have chauffeurs. Have
    you *tried* driving a car at 15MPH? It's practically impossible without
    leaving it in first.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 24, 2008
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    Snowleopard Guest

    On Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:31:42 +0000, Wicked Uncle Nigel
    I'm not convinced it will reduce carbon emissions to drive at that
    speed, either, especially if people are bashing the engine in first.
    Then you'll get the lovely revving noises to go with it.

    How would it be on a bike? I have visions of people toppling over or
    just paddling themselves along.
     
    Snowleopard, Mar 24, 2008
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    ginge Guest

    It would also appear the plan is to build mini towns on what is
    currently green land, a fair distance from where most people work, and
    nowhere near existing rail links..

    http://www.notogrovewood.org/grovewood.pdf

    Eco-tastic.
     
    ginge, Mar 24, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    If you're trundling about at 15mph, you'll either be so bored that you'll
    stop paying attention and run into things, or you'll start playing silly
    buggers and **** it up badly. Slow just isn't a good option - look at how
    many peds come to grief, and they rarely go over 4mph.
     
    platypus, Mar 24, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    I REALLY don't want to know.

    Wat about this? "Ms Flint has said she wants to see towns designed around
    pedestrians, cyclists and public transport users". Nice if yu can walk, but
    bit poxy if you can't and I know quite a few who can't.

    Maybe we'll hear this "There'll be no place for spazzers in the New world,
    so they'll have to be eradicated" from her in he not too distant.
    I can't run at 5 mph and buses can't go that slowly either. Well not in
    small streets.


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    Beav, Mar 24, 2008
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    dog Guest

    a bit like ebbsfleet, then.
     
    dog, Mar 25, 2008
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    I suspect you're right.

    Anyway, ISTR reading that transport is only the sixth largest source
    of CO2 in the UK, after domestic, industrial and... err, other stuff.
    The moral being: to reduce CO2 emissions and in fact all human
    environmental impact, controlling the problem at source, i.e
    population control, is the best solution.
     
    Pip Luscher, Mar 25, 2008
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  8. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Pip Luscher
    Nice article in the Torygraph this last weekend. Apparently that nice
    Ruth Kelly[1] has suggested that all Government ministers should be
    required to be chauffeured around in Toyota Priuseseses (Priii?).

    This has been dismissed by other ministers as "gesture politics" and
    they're sticking to their Jags. The Head Boy^W^W Prime Minister has told
    Ms Kelly to looks at the matter again.

    One rule for them...

    [1] Could she *look* any more like a slightly gawky Head Girl?
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 25, 2008
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    Lozzo Guest

    Wicked Uncle Nigel wrote:

    Steady on old chap, my youngest daughter is about to take up the role
    of Head Girl at her school. She is far from geeky.


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    Lozzo, Mar 25, 2008
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  10. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Lozzo
    I said "gawky". And I doubt your daughter is that.

    I meant no disrespect to Head Girls.

    Just that useless **** Kelly.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 25, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    If the 150 most polluting power stations in the world were scrapped and
    replaced with Nuclear it would be like every car in the developed world
    stopping tomorrow. If that was combined with an immediate end of
    deforestation it would halt the CO2 problem, if it exists, in its tracks.

    Facts the Luddites don't want to discuss.

    and Bonners will be forever employed.
     
    Hog, Mar 25, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Fact: In this country coal fired stations are having hundreds of
    millions of pounds blown on FGD work so they can keep the tree huggers
    happy.

    http://www.the-eic.com/News/Archive/2005/Nov/Article1396.htm

    If the work is a success then nuclear power, though handy, won't be as
    critical as it appears today. Coal will be King again.
    I've got work to see me through to retirement without nuclear power
    stations. Having said that, BE buy me motorbikes at the end of summer
    when we've made loads of money so they're my friends but we're now
    looking at something that'll probably keep me interested much longer
    than a manky old PWR.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 25, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    Am I mistaken? what has FGD got to do with CO2. I understood that was
    dealing with chemical pollutants.
    A new generation of nuclear tipped ICBM? more interesting would be Tidal
    Power barrages. You could dive and everyfink.
     
    Hog, Mar 25, 2008
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  14. Priapisms?
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    "A scone and tea at half past three
    Makes the day a little brighter
    Keep your cakes and fancy tarts
    And stick them up your shiter."
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Mar 26, 2008
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    Pip Guest

    That's a bit stiff, Sir.
     
    Pip, Mar 26, 2008
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Sulphur dioxide is (apparently) one of the main causes of acid rain
    and the tree huggers don't like acid rain.

    The other big benefit of the new plant being installed is that they'll
    be burning more fuel from renewable sources rather than dinosaur bones
    and that'll also give the tree huggers a bit of a stiff one.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Mar 26, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    Whew you had me worried for a moment. We still need lots of new Nuclear
    then, which kinda gives me wood, or protects trees, or something.
     
    Hog, Mar 26, 2008
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    darsy Guest

    in any case, hasn't the total build cost + lifetime running costs for
    the Toyota Prius been exposed as pretty ungreen compared to a more
    average car?
     
    darsy, Mar 26, 2008
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  19. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Champ
    I have always thought that leadership by example is the only way to
    really go.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 26, 2008
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    Hog Guest

    "Over the top boys"
    "After you Sir"
     
    Hog, Mar 26, 2008
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