Edible hats at the ready guys...

Ok you doubting and piss-taking f*ckers

Herewith the reply from Wolfgang Evers, owner and builder of the 140mph
Commando.

I'd like to take a trip up the strip on his Danish mates turbo'd one,

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Hi Roger
The answer to your Question is I self go with the Commando(920ccm,
Nearly 80PS) 225 kph at 7000RPM ,With no Fairing and normal Handlebar,
if you look in the theoretical road speed list in TheMaintance
Manual,Speed in Mph

GearSprocket Teeth
19
20
21
22
23
24
25


Overall Gear Ratio
4,84
4,6
4,38
4,18
3,99
3,83
3,62

Engine RPM/MPH
6000
92
97
102
106
112
117
121

RPM
6500
99
105
110
115
121
126
131


7000
107
113
119
124
130
136
141


Sprockets : Engine 26 T,Clutch57T, Rear 42T ,

A dansk friend have a Commando with turbocarger the bike have 100 PS on
the
back Wheel ; Tested on a Teststand,live seen.
Or you see the Answer in the Book Norton Twins at Page 79. Motorcycle
Illustrated tested an 850 carefully run in and then tuned in accordance
with a service data sheet ,insalled a small fairing and geared up to
24-tooth gearbox sprocket .The bike was timed with 142,74 mph

I hope this where helpfull for you
Wolfgang and greatings to Dale and Yaitie

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Please would someone quote this in full for Bears benefit - Ta.

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<fx: boggle>

quoted for bear

 

With what relevance?

I'm not surprised that they can be tuned and modified to go fast, at
the expense of what Norton might have laughably referred to as
"reliability".

I would be astounded if a production standard one could equal that.

Even the Norton 750 Commando production race model my mate bought new
around 1973? wouldn't go that fast.

 

On Sun, 06 Jul 2003 23:07:20 +0100, Champ wrote:

Bloody hell that's bad. He must have liked the bike to keep replacing main
bearings though, or had it on hp.

 

Muck said:

Or a cheap and plentiful supply of bearings.

 

Christopher Des Clayes <[email protected]> spouted the following in

At the risk of becoming repetitive, let me remind you that Champs
original challenge was to

"Find me one road going commando that can do 140mph"

Nothing in that specifies a production standard model as far as I can
see.

Well Wolfgang has kept his running for years. Sure things will wear
faster, but AFAIK he has had no catastrophic failures.

Some similar performance YAM TRX motors have a fairly short life too.

Some specific commando models did have serious problems, notably with
main bearing breakup, but these were addressed and solved a lot quicker
than HONDA got around to fixing their camchain problems...

True, they were supposed to do 135mph.

IIRC Mick Grant and his team mate took 1st and 2nd in the production TT
that year on 'em.

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tallbloke said:

Why do you capitalise Honda in that way? It's not an acronym, it's a
name.

 

That'll do for me

Ah, still want it both ways then. OK I took a debate which started out
about production models and shifted it to include 'specials'. My
defense is, that brit iron is *worth* making into something special. You
really grow to love you fave bike, and continue to develop it over the
years to keep up with the fast boys on the shiny new jappers.

Never was unhappy. Got a bit tired of the piss taking I'll admit. Still,
this is UKRM and I'm still learning not to take it or myself too
seriously

Maybe he should have spoken to someone who knew and fitted superblends.

Honestly Champ, a well sorted and screwed together Commando can be fast
*and* reliable.

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It is too an acronym. Stands for:

Had One, Never Drive Another. ',',',',

Anyway, they always spell HONDA in capitals on the tank badges don't
they?

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I don't know why I bothered ;-)

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tallbloke said:

There is a difference between posting to Usenet and painting a petrol
tank.

 

Formula 750 TT.

NOT Production.
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LOL, at 142mph they look, er <VROOOOM> cor!, did you see that? ;-)

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Oh, I don't know. Waiting for replies to posts can be a bit like
watching paint dry. ;-)


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tallbloke wrote

Difference being that the Jap bikes can be relied to do it again and
again with nothing more than basic maintenance.

Even 70's Guzzis, as *standard*, can consistently run at maximum speed
without the need for major surgery every weekend.

 

(a) **** that.
(b) Bollocks.

 

sweller <> spouted the following in

Discovered this from personal experience have we?

Maybe *you* can't get a fast commando to run reliably. Doesn't follow
that someone with a bit of capability in the mechaniching department
can't though.

70's Guzzis (I own one) are not exactly overstressed tuning wise. They
are wonderful bikes and if you go all the way back to where the argument
started, I drew a comparison between 'italian and british bikes in the
seventies', and Japcrap; not just Britters.

It got narrowed down to a brit vs jap argument by TOG and Champ, who has
now graciously acknowledged that there are commandos which can do
140mph, which was the key issue. Happy though I am to have a discussion
about reliability, it's another debate.

I wish you and Bear would just acknowledge that commandos can do 140mph+
and move on.

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Ah but you're not exactly a keen spanner wielder are you Ben? [1]

[1] From what I've gathered on this NG.

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tallbloke wrote

Yes they (Commandos) can do 140 mph, but not straight out of the box.

And to continue doing so requires someone with mechanical ability
greater than mine, apparently.

Whereas 'Japcrap' will do it out of the box and doesn't need a support
crew to continue to do it.

British machines were good but became complacent and since the sixties
were overtaken by better and more, dare I say, desirable products.

It's not necessary to defend the honour of a dead industry at every
turn. It's even less interesting and certainly less relevant than the
Linux vs Windows argument.

Heh, I don't think that we're the ones that need to move on...

 

You've found one 2 miles an hour faster then?