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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by wessie, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. wessie

    Stephen Guest

    Me too. I've worked long hours for close to thirty years and have
    taken very little from the state. I've made choices that have even
    saved the state money.

    Yet all the state seems to want to do is take an ever-increasing share
    of my income and use this to pay for central stupidity and funding the

    Still, looking on the bright side when it comes to my retirement the
    state will look after me well I'm sure. Suppose it's only right since
    they're taxing my attempts to provide for myself.
    Stephen, Jun 12, 2011
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  2. Pretty much, yes.
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 12, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    It's a uniform, get over it and concentrate on the points he made.
    So you're proposing censoring the media and removing freedom of speech?
    Tim, Jun 12, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    The revenue an individual could gain is small in comparison to that of a
    large organisation, unless you know a secure way to earn 10% interest
    before tax.
    Tim, Jun 12, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    A friend from university just applied for a job. She made the 1st round
    "short-list", which was nice. But, that 1st round had 80 candidates for
    1 vacancy. There were 120 original applicants.

    The feed-back she got was useful but essentially boiled-down to
    something like, "we had nearly 80 identical newly graduated applicants
    and trying to find anyone from that is a difficult task".

    So there are some jobs out there and there are at least 120 people who
    aren't feckless work-shy etc.
    Tim, Jun 12, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    No don't clone them, think of the trees. Every developed world person is
    consuming natural resources and an astounding rate. If we want to have a
    nice retirement and our loved ones to continue after we're gone, then
    the only answer is to depopulate the world so we can carry on in our
    secure existence. ;-)
    Tim, Jun 12, 2011
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    Tim Guest

    In message

    I find myself agreeing with Mr P.
    Tim, Jun 12, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    Telesales isn't work, it's Purgatory.
    Ace, Jun 12, 2011
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    Catman Guest

    I (used to) know plenty of people that would take a different view.

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    wessie Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    Well, it's the best one out there, being the latest one that HMG has put in
    the public domain and key, being the one that is used by policy makers.
    wessie, Jun 12, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    Unwieldy isn't it? WAG seems to be good at that. The cynic in me would say
    that they make things complex as a delaying measure to actually spending
    substantial amounts of money improving the infrastructure to make it viable
    for people to travel to work. just like Westminster, they are very good at
    forming committees to talk about how to do stuff. It took them about 5
    years to develop the system.

    Now those figures are in use they do concentrate the minds of *local*
    politicians as the data are separated into small areas that represent their
    constituencies. In my home county it has been a battle to persuade the Tory
    council that there is are several clusters of poverty, in a county
    perceived by most as affluent.

    Dental cares in children is a significant indicator of poverty. Treating
    the kids, who get free dental care remember, is a huge cost to the NHS.
    Preventative work through schemes like Sure Start & Flying Start, where a
    health visitor is involved with a family from before birth has an upfront
    cost but will save the NHS more during the lifetime of the child.

    Similarly, a project based here in Abergavenny, picked up in that measure,
    identified that low birth weights were a significant problem. Kids with low
    birth weight are more likely to have a learning difficulty or physical
    illness and therefore less likely to be good little wage earners. Again,
    health visitors working in schools with teenage girls and in the community
    with expectant mums has raised birth weights significantly. Those kids are
    much more likely to do well in school and go on to be self reliant, but the
    mum might still need benefts for the next 18 years.

    You have a very short term view of how to fix the fucked up country we live
    in. There is no quick fix. The 2 projects above won't show any benefit to
    the state for a generation
    wessie, Jun 12, 2011
  12. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ace
    But it's paid Purgatory.
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 12, 2011
  13. Since the infamous 'Iraq weapons of mass destruction' document was used
    by policy makers, I've rather lost faith in this argument.
    The Older Gentleman, Jun 12, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    I can understand that view. It's not the only datum that I use to form my
    wessie, Jun 12, 2011
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    Salad Dodger Guest

    As opposed to a self fulflling job like fitiing Escort boot lids for
    eight hours a day, or lying on your belly hacking at a coal seam with
    a pickaxe.
    Salad Dodger, Jun 12, 2011
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    Stephen Guest

    My son and daughter found work within a week of returning from
    university, my daughter in a restaurant and my son selling ice cream.

    There's plenty of work out there at an entry level.

    Careers (as you are discussing) may take longer to find.
    Stephen, Jun 12, 2011
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    Stephen Guest

    Better than living off someone else's efforts.

    I'm sure it's better than washing up in a restaurant, thank **** I
    don't have to do either.
    Stephen, Jun 12, 2011
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    Lozzo Guest

    When I've wanted a job or to change job I've never found it difficult.
    There is plenty of work out there, but sometimes you have to lower your
    expectations and take what comes around. It does help if you have a
    clue how to live within your means, and not spend 1500 quid a month on
    socialising and eating out.

    Versys 650 Inter-Continental Hyperbolistic Missile , CBR600F-W racebike
    in the making, TS250C, RD400F (somewhere)
    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
    Lozzo, Jun 12, 2011
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    Andy B Guest

    Yet making it easier to work is mean.
    Andy B, Jun 12, 2011
  20. Of course. How else do we keep the words and actions of madmen from
    corrupting the population?

    and don't give me all that fucking crap about how fucking holy you are and
    how much free speech is vital to the world because it is all just so much
    fucking bollox and it would be nice if thick cunts like you simply
    admitted it instead of wallowing in your bath of pure hypocrisy while
    growing ever more gross on a diet rich in ignorance and denial.
    steve auvache, Jun 12, 2011
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