Elderly cast wheel question

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by manson, Aug 23, 2004.

  1. manson

    manson Guest

    Hi folks.

    Over the years, I have noticed that cast wheels on motorcycles seem to
    have a limited life span, with regard to being airtight for the use of
    tubeless tyres evn when they are otherwise undamaged.

    Up until now, the standard reaction seems to be "fit a tube in it".

    I'd really like to have the convenience of tubeless tyres, and also not
    have to pump the tyres up ever time I use the bike, so....do any of you
    know how older cast wheels can be made to be non-air leaking, or
    whatever the correct word might be?

    regards.
    CrazyCam
     
    manson, Aug 23, 2004
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  2. manson

    Boxer Guest

    I would recommend getting them powder coated or ceramic coated at HPC high
    performance coatings.

    http://www.hpcoatings.com.au/

    That should do the trick.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Aug 23, 2004
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  3. manson

    Knobdoodle Guest

    What; those big viewer thingies that used to be on the counters at parts
    shops?!!?!
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 23, 2004
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  4. manson

    manson Guest


    Thanks, that looks like a possible....pity about being in Vic.

    regards,
    CrazyCam
     
    manson, Aug 23, 2004
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  5. In aus.motorcycles on Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:16:24 +1000
    YOu are retired now, plenty of time, you could take Bluey down with
    them....

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Aug 23, 2004
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  6. manson

    Boxer Guest

    One is in Brisbane as well, you may have one near you.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Aug 24, 2004
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  7. manson

    John Littler Guest

    If I'm not mistaken I think you'll find that hairline cracking is
    indeed the problem, and is actually why from one perspective you might
    be well advised not to attempt to rejuvenate them. They are an
    increased danger of failing altogether. You should buy a brand new
    set...

    Check the state of the rim, sans tyre, to see if it looks like there's
    cracks, or just lots of dings that are preventing the bead sealing.
    Use a magnifying glass (nb even if you can't see them with a
    magnifying glass doesn't mean they're not there, magnaflux(sp?)(IIRC)
    is the only way you'll know for sure.

    Now, having stated the safety conscious position(which I'm sure you'll
    ignore :) I would suggest that powder coating will be a temporary fix
    at best - if it's a result of cracking in the rim the flexing will
    quickly create new fissures for the air to escape through. I'd
    definitely investigate a more permanent style of coating - the ceramic
    coating prev mentioned or nitriding might work or similar.

    Or just go with the tubes and save yourself mega bucks on an old bike
    :)

    JL
     
    John Littler, Aug 24, 2004
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  8. manson

    Moike Guest


    I'd be a bit worried about the structural integrity of a wheel that used
    to be non-porous, but was now letting air through. I'd be a bit
    concerned about whether or not it was still as strong as it is supposed
    to be. Painful scenarios suggest themselves.

    My cast wheels were porous from new. BMW say they were never intended
    to be used with tubeless tyres. (well, it WAS 1979!).

    Had an interesting time with a tyre place that tried to fit tubeless
    tyres to them.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Aug 24, 2004
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  9. manson

    Johnnie5 Guest

    Johnnie5, Aug 24, 2004
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  10. manson

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Thanks Christ SOMEBODY responded!!
    (I was about to post "sound of crickets chirping")
    --
    Clem
    [Snoorer to the stars]
    ~
     
    Knobdoodle, Aug 24, 2004
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  11. Is it really a crack if it so small?

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Aug 25, 2004
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