Elefanteers and Fabrication types

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by sweller, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. sweller

    sweller Guest

    See these:
    http://www.mv-motorrad.de/cosmoshop/lshop,showdetail,13240,e,1105803788-30287,,10107,,,.htm

    At £85 they're a bit steep for one off usage.

    However, How difficult would it be to fabricate, say, 20 ish (for 4
    bikes) of the metal claws, or at least something similar?

    With two slots/holes [1] they could then be attached to the tyre using
    FOAD cable tyres for the short time they'd be in use.


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    sweller, Mar 15, 2008
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  2. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Having thought about it a little bit....

    How practical is cutting to length that strapping that gets used in the
    building trade (I used to use it in banger racing) - it has ~4mm holes
    pre-drilled in a staggered pattern.

    A number of short pan head machine screws could be inserted into the
    holes (and welded into place to speed production) creating a band of
    studs, the strap given a curve to match the tyre profile and then cable
    tied into place in a similar way to the commercial claws.
     
    sweller, Mar 15, 2008
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  3. sweller

    M J Carley Guest

    Does the FOAK know what the proper name for toothed channel section
    is? I mean a channel section, with the sides in a serrated pattern.
    We could cut tyre-width lengths and strap them to the tyres.
     
    M J Carley, Mar 15, 2008
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  4. sweller

    Hog Guest

    "bloody hell"
     
    Hog, Mar 15, 2008
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    Owen Guest

    Could one use a section of toothed drive-belt, reversed, flatside
    against tyre, tensioned up with the FOAD cable ties (mentioned
    somewhere else). Mr angle-grinder could help carve out rows of teeth,
    iyswim. Wouldnt be hard wearing, but how much snow riding are you
    intending on doing? Its a cheap possibility.
     
    Owen, Mar 15, 2008
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    deadmail Guest

    This year some of the Italians were just putting cable ties onto their
    rear tyes.

    Personally I'd be a little cautious of having good(ish) grip at the back
    and crap grip at the front- I think this could well provoke an accident.

    We need sidecars. Not sure but I think that I'm going to try to find a
    larger chair and hang it on the Pan or the K11.
     
    deadmail, Mar 15, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    That's actually a bloody good idea. Use 2nd-hand car timing belts and make
    the sections long enough that you can just tag the ends together with a bolt
    and washers.
     
    platypus, Mar 15, 2008
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  8. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, sweller
    I don't know if this has been pointed out lately; if so, forgive the
    repetition:

    You are quite, quite mad.

    Barking, howl-at-the-moon, careful-with-that-axe-Eugene mad.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Mar 15, 2008
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  9. sweller

    Hog Guest

    AOL
    Deadmail had it spot on wondering about the lack of front end grip.

    I've been here, putting self tappers into trials tyres.
     
    Hog, Mar 15, 2008
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  10. sweller

    deadmail Guest

    Sidecars or trikes.

    Trail bikes would be OK if the journey wasn't as long and if the
    conditions didn't demand decent tents, airbeds/whatever.
     
    deadmail, Mar 15, 2008
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  11. sweller

    Owen Guest

    Thats what I'm thinking, cheap materials and with your bolts you could
    really tension them up... A bit of inner tube to stop the bolts from
    grinding against the wheel paintwork...

    Now, how do we incorporate rubber eggs and glove-puppets into the
    equation?
     
    Owen, Mar 16, 2008
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  12. sweller

    platypus Guest

    Plenty of lube.
     
    platypus, Mar 16, 2008
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  13. sweller

    sweller Guest

    With very limited success.

    I don't agree, the problem I had was rear traction. The rear would slide
    out putting strain on the front as I tried to correct the back end.

    Once the plot was moving forward in a straight line it was ok as long as
    I kept the rear gripping.
     
    sweller, Mar 16, 2008
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  14. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Except, possibly, the rubber teeth would be in line with the rotation and
    provide less grip. We need the straps to bite into the ice not slide
    over it.
     
    sweller, Mar 16, 2008
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  15. sweller

    sweller Guest

    ****. Them.

    http://www.mondoenduro.com/terracirca.html
     
    sweller, Mar 16, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    Are you sure you don't need counselling after your trauma?
     
    platypus, Mar 16, 2008
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    deadmail Guest

    I think it's the length of motorway travel that puts me off the idea of
    a transalp or whatever. Plus in the mid-winter I want a decent fairing
    on the bike.
     
    deadmail, Mar 16, 2008
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    Dan L Guest

    How about strips of weldmesh, nice and pliable and plenty grippiness in
    all directions.

    Bond on some strips of old inner tube to the inside and bolt together
    with a big wingnut for ease of use with numb fingers

    --
    Dan L

    Too much time to think, too little to do.


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    Dan L, Mar 16, 2008
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  19. sweller

    deadmail Guest

    I didn't hang around to check...
    My problem was the front slipping around. The back seemed fine but then
    again I had a narrower tyre on a heavy bike with loads of weight
    directly over it which might have helped me? I guess the K's geometry
    at the front (tall, long bendy forks) probably doesn't help here.
     
    deadmail, Mar 16, 2008
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  20. sweller

    sweller Guest

    Dan's weldmesh idea maybe the top one ATM.
     
    sweller, Mar 16, 2008
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