Energy rationing.

I don't read papers often, but this caught my eye.

http://energybulletin.net/7081.html

<thinks about fitting CG125 with a diesel motor>

 

Oh, ffs! That's quite ludicrous even by New Labour standards.

 

Why is it ludicrous? We are killing the world by acting with impunity
when it comes to environmental matters.

They are simply *considering* applying the same rules to individuals
that already apply to industry. Someone has to do the thinking. The
article also notes that achieving the 2050 greenhouse gas target is an
aim shared by all uk political parties.

What's your alternative policy?

 

Stop worrying about it because none of us will be here if it ever turns
out as bad as is currently predicted.

 

Well, what if something like that actually comes into force? With gas
prices set to rise with production slowing, solar water heating seems
like an even better idea.

 

We sure are. There are far too many of us wanting far too much, for what
end?

 

Muck wrote

Revenge.


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Sometimes when other people pick on you for being stupid I think its
undeserved. I'm afraid to say you have conclusively proved their case.

 

I just don't see why we're worried about any of it. It's just nature
taking it's course. If anything, by messing with stuff to 'be kind to
the environment' we're changing the natural progression of things.

As things stand, we have no idea what the long term effects of carbon
fuels are going to be - it's probably going to be hundreds, if not
thousands of years, before it can be conclusively said that buring
petrol now is having an adverse effect on the environment, or if it
would have happened anyway.

 

*shrugs*

Why should we worry now about something that might affect the world in
several hundred years time (and that's being generous)?

 

Who's worried Steve? I asked you why you thought it was ludicrous and
what your alternative was?

I assume from your remarks that you don't consider we have a duty to act
now to protect the world for future generations?

 

won't be a problem when bird flu jumps the species barrier next year
and >10% of the population die off.

 

I can't think of any previous generation that has, so I don't see why we
should start now.

We have to do what we do for today, and let future generations sort
themselves out.

Life is far too short to worry about the effects of global warming in a
thousand years time.

 

Running out of oil is not hundreds of years away, the world is maybe 10
years away from being over peak oil production. I'd think that slowing
gas production has already affected you, with year on year price
increases.

Something will have to give, indeed, things are already giving. Look at
China, they're quite worried about water supplies, but not so worried
about population or carbon production... sort of like their friends the
Americans, who also need a big bucket of sand to stick their heads in.

 

SteveH wrote

FFS will you people start reading and taking note of fucking history.
Of course they have. The Clean Air Acts which removed the London smog
from my childhood was an attempt by people of my grandparents generation
to 'do something about it' and they weren't the first, just the earliest
I can actually remember.



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steve auvache
750 VT Shadow (something for the weekend)
Bindit 600 (was lost and now is found)
GS500E (small but perfectly formed)
mongvan (dehydrated)

 

Do you vote Republican?

Do you own shares in oil companies?

 

muck@_TEETH_rulex.net (Muck) wrote in muck@_TEETH_rulex.net:

Sure. Heat the water with solar and light the lamps with wind.
Save the petrol and gas for high speed blatting ;-)

 

So? We run out of oil, so find an alternative. Let's be honest about it
- don't dress up alternative energy as an environmental benefit. We're
only doing it because we're running out of oil.

We'd have been a lot better off in the UK if there hadn't been a short
sighted decision to close down our mining industry 20 years ago, though.

There's a fairly simple, if expensive, solution to water shortages in
the form of desalination plants. In fact, given the predictions of
rising sea levels, that's going to be the long-term solution to water
throughout the world. There's plenty of water, it's just (currently) the
wrong kind.

 

Wasn't that just a knee-jerk reaction to improve things at the time,
though?

 

How so? You just said it was nature taking it's course: if using it is
nature, then so is doing something about it. If not, then why not?

Don't be such a dummy.