Energy rationing.

Not *that* fucking deep, project MOHOLE it isn't!! Those nice deep
salt mines in nice stable salt domes will do nicely. It's not as if
much of a vitrified and stainless wrapped load is going to surface a
mile upwards in 10,000 years or that we really GAF if it does. Just
one of those Soviet mines would take all the worlds nuke waste for the
next 10 centuries.

Nowt wrong wiv a bit of radiation. I warrant I've had more external
beta/gamma irradiation than everyone else in this group put together
(1) and as you can see it hasn't done me any harm at all..............

(1) excluding MW and Ivan, neither of whom seem to have withstood it
as well as me

'Hog

 

Well it's happened before

'Hog

 

The solution is Tidal energy with Hydro, Nuclear and emergency oil
backup capacity. Other alternatives would still provide fill in.
Problem with creating a suitable tidal barrier is the lead cost and
the long payback period. It would need to be government funded. The
Severn estuary is capable of generating IIRC 1/3 of all UK power
requirements from a 3 to 5 mile barrier. This might seem
unlikely.....until you drive the Dutch A7 to Den Oever.

The money being invested in Fusion could be redirected towards tidal
barriers, IMHO it is a complete waste of effort. It will generate huge
volumes of highly radioactive infrastructure. Containment breaches
would be rather unpleasant. The delivery timescale, if it ever works,
is unrealistic. It ignores the most basic of rules, keep it simple
stupid. The lovely thing about your basic (well designed) fission nuke
and tidal barriers is their relative simplicity.

There are transmission problems with having such a concentrated centre
of electrical generation but it could feed London, Bristol, Cardiff,
Birmingham etc. with improved carrier line technology. It could also
operate as a centre for Hydrogen generation, replacing most of the
petroleum consumption, during off peak periods.

The problems are not technical, they are social and political. Looking
at the New Orleans disaster and more significantly back at human
history I do not believe we will successfully implement good
solutions.

'Hog

 

Heh.. look at the site now. Those words say more than anything else can.

 

Oh, I dunno. I've had quite a bit in the last 25 years...

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Beav"
<> saying something like:

So true. In most newbuild Scandinavian houses you could heat the entire
house with a small pellet stove.

 

And someone must have been listening when I mentioned seagull guano ...

http://www.nwemail.co.uk/news/viewarticle.aspx?id=281726

RADIOACTIVE GULLS STORED IN FREEZER
Published on 13/09/2005

HUNDREDS of radioactive gulls are being stored in an industrial freezer
at Cumbria’s Sellafield nuclear plant, it has been revealed.

The birds are being stored at the site after BNFL managers employed
sharpshooters to kill any seagulls or pigeons which landed at the power
plant, according to reports. The practice was introduced more than a
decade ago over fears that any birds which landed at Sellafield would
then fly on, potentially carry hazardous radiation.

It was reported that the droppings could potentially be hazardous,
especially from birds who had been on the Sellafield site and then flown
elsewhere.

Traces of radiation have been found in some of the dead birds.

Those that are killed are designated low-level nuclear waste and are
placed in a large industrial freezer on the site.

A spokesman for BNFL said they were in talks with the Environment Agency
and the Nuclear InstallationsInspectorate over what to do with hundreds
of the birds being stored in the freezer.

 

Stoves like this one?

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/09/mason_heaters.php

 

Huh Economy 7 from wood, no thanks ;o)

'Hog

 

I like real fires, at least as a backup. During the 1987 storms, we went
without power for over 2 weeks. Our fire places were a real blessing, so
was the amount of fire wood available.

 

Oh I like open fires. My house in Scotland had it's own wooded area
which provided nicely.

'Hog

 

It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the

Trouble is, these days there's a limit to how many peasants you can
burn.