English tire tests online?

x-post, f'up to rec.motorcycles

Hi,

could anyone direct me to any English language tire tests, especially
concerning recent sports touring, sports and racing tires? Pirelli
Supercorsa, Dunlop GP Racer, Qualifier, that sort of stuff?

It's because I need to read up a little on my vocabulary.

 

Oxymoron alert!

You need to learn English a bit, that's for sure.

And what's with posting to ukrm then removing it from the FU? You
dick.

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A hard guy styling hisself "Ace" treated us to the following:

Whohoo, trying out some new expressions are we.

Not from you I don't.

That's what you DO after an X-post to funnel the traffic to a single
group instead of flooding two groups for no good reason at all.

It's called "netiquette".

Duh, sure full of geniuses here today.

And good ole' British politesse also out in force, I see.

I wonder why you wussed out of the opportunity to release a good old
Nazi joke, those always crack me up.

But then again, a participant of your intellectual caliber probably
assumes .de is for Denmark.

 

On Thu, 24 Apr 2008 09:18:05 +0200, Radbert Grimmig

<snip>

<Aside to groups: Sorry to reply to such an obvious troll, I must be
tyred this morning>

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Listen boxhead, if you don't want the help, don't fucking ask for it.
Hopefully your knowledge of the English language will be god enough or
you to understand the words "****" and "Off" in that order.

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Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
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Nazi!

 

It's the accepted American spelling.

You shouldn't have blown your chance to prevent that, back in 1776.

 

<FX: muffled laughter>

Soy.

 

<jumps to (likely) end of thread>

'It's a good job we saved your ass in 1945, otherwise you'd be speaking
German now'.

Oh, hang on - that's not right is it.

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I think you mean Russian.

 

There are some here,

http://www.blackcircles.com/tyres/motorbike-tyres

....but they're hardly extensive.

There might be some at,

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/

...and it might be worth trying some of the sports bike magazines to.

 

<Snigger>

It's the law, y'know.

 

One typo is acceptable, in fact it's compulsory

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Honda CBR600 FW trackbike
Yamaha SR250 Spazz-Trakka
Suzuki GSXR750 L
Suzuki TS50X
Suzuki TS50X

 

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Unquestionably. Context is, however, everythnig.

Soy.

 

My bad.

Not all I need though... so let's try the direct approach.

- In German they say "Eigendämpfung" to talk about the damping of a
tyre, separating it from the damping of the suspension's dampers.
"eigen" is something like "own" => the tyre's own damping. I have a
creepy feeling this literal translation doesn't work though.

- Can/would you say "tread milage"? For "how quickly the tread wears
down"? I have a feeling if I skipped the "tread" and just wrote
"milage" it might be confused with fuel milage, so the English readers
would infer that a certain tyre decreases or increases fuel
consumption (which it might do, but it is not the issue).

- "Zielgenauigkeit" (noun) / "zielgenau" (adjective). This refers to
precision (or would you rather say "accuracy" here?) - how well the
tyre lets you hit the points you aim for. "zielen" in German is "to
aim". Surprisingly, for once there was an entry in an online
dictionary (which I otherwise find increasingly useful, only not - yet
- for technical terms: dict.leo.org): "cornering predictability"

- "Einlenkverhalten" - this is basically "steering characteristics",
only the "ein-" denotes that they are concerned with the initial phase
of the steering process, so to speak. The literal translation might be
"turning-in characteristics" (which looks awful.) There's something
similar with nraking: "Anbremsverhalten". "Eine Kurve anbremsen" means
braking down to the intended cornering speed before actually steering
in. Nice crisp word?

- Concerning the actual motorcycles the tyres are for: German writers
differenciate between "Tourensportler" and "Sporttourer", although I'm
not too clear about the distinction. At times it seems very arbitrary.
My guess is, the first ist for even slower, even bigger, even heavier,
still more comfy bikes that aren't quite tourers yet. I have read
"sports tourer" - is there something like "touring sports bikes"?

- Oh, and "agility" of course. Can a tyre be "unwieldy", meaning it
makes the bike less agile?

Regards
Radbert

 

"Internal damping" might be better, but it's not a concept I've ever
heard about in tyre tests.

In UK english, mileage (note spelling - same in US) is seldome used to
refer to fuel consumption; in the US they often say 'gas mileage', but
not generally mileage on it's own. So yes, 'tread mileage' is fine,
but 'lifespan', longevity or 'wear rate' might be better.

Precision is probably better, in fact.

Sounds good.

'Turn-in rate' is about the best I can think of, i.e. how quickly a
tyre drops into the corner.

We'd tend to stick with just Tourer, e.g. ST1300 and Sports-tourer,
e.g. Sprint ST.

Yes, I guess that would work.

For a UK audience I'd suggest you add factors such as braking feel,
outright cornering grip and grip in the wet. For the US I'm not sure -
doubtless someone will answer on reccy, although I see you've removed
the x-post, so you won't get a good UK vs. US discussion going, which
is where you might glean the most benefit.

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Sidewall stiffness?

 

What does "handling" of a bike mean to you?

Regards
Radbert

 

To steer and stop, easily and predictably?
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