Even we were surprised...

.... at the RTA's enthusiasm at nailing up those shiny new 60 signs on the
Old Road. Many glum faces at the Road Warriors this morning. Was certainly
the talk of everyone there. The desired effect may already be taking place.
Many were saying "well I'm not comming up here anymore"... "70 was bad
enough"...

Seems the motorcycling types are split between the boy racers and the real
enthusiasts. It was the former who were the ones crying in their flat
whites. The tourers were quietly smug that they too might get their "piece
of road" back. They are sick of the posers as much as we are.

Police will start enforcing the new limit immediately, but willing taxpayers
will be spared until New Year after the 4 week grace period has expired.

What we are trying to do is rid the area of the boy racers. The tourers have
always been a very welcome lot - we have a cuppa with you every Saturday and
Sunday morning. They are not out to set the new land speed record, or listen
to their new Yoshi's. They are there to enjoy the lovely area we like to
call home and enjoy motorcycling. Just how it used to be. In days gone by,
we used to admire the Nortons, BSA's, Trumpies etc that used to frequent the
area. Now we attract the Jap superbikes. No thanks. These bikes are now more
capable than their riders, hence the increasing amount of accidents
representing these exact bikes when the bikes themselves run out of talent,
well after the rider has. Every single weekend there is a single rider
accident in these parts. Every weekend. Without fail, some racer decides
that the armco / red Jarrah is more attractive than the bitumen.

For those that only venture up here for a few minutes a few times a year,
you don't get to see the *REAL* picture. My neighbour has, over the last 3
years, collected an insane amount of bike parts - farings, mirrors,
lights... you name it. Just from outside of his driveway. All from
nondecript jap bikes.

Depending on the Police/residents report due in June next year, the area may
be further reduced to 50km/h - our original target.

Seems too that our friends out at Bucketty/Kulnara/Laguna/Wollembi are not
happy campers either. Nothing has been agreed to as yet, but expect this
stretch of road to receive similar treatment.

As usual, the boy racers are an increasing pest.

 

How about Moike's superboike?

-----sharks

 

Those bloody pretend enthusiasts always ruin it for everyone don't they.

Bloody posers. Why can't every one be real like us. If everyone was just
like us, there'd be no problem

The real ones, or the pretend ones?

Between the years of 1953 and 1956 you mean? Or back in 1773? which
selective good old days are you referring?

In the good old days(tm), Brit bikes were superbikes.

We never used to crash in the good old days(tm)

We never used to crash in the good old days(tm).

Bloody pretenders, always concrentrating on the pretend picture.

Prentend non-descript or real non-descript?

Real or pretend?

 

Which would be why the MCC's representations and involvement has been
totally ignored.

If I accused you of writing lies I'd be being too kind

JL

 

While I agree that there are a number of riders on the Old Road that
reguarly outride their skillset, there are a much larger group that
like to go for a ride, abeit a little over the limit, in a reasonable
manner.

70 was a limit that was widely ignored by both motorcyclists and
locals.
60 will be the same but the fines and demerit points will be bigger;
for both motorcyclists and locals.

Maybe education would be the way to go ?
No, no dollars in it.

The Jap bike comments went out with the seventies; proportions
crashing reflect the same proportion of total registrations.

Hope the locals enjoy their self generated speeding tickets. Cheers

Burnie M

 

Since when is Peats Ridge near Road Warriors?

The Old Pacific Highway you mention does not go near Pets Ridge so I am
wondering what a 'Peats Ridge Action Group' is doing involving itself in
road safety on a stretch of road outside of its area?

The actions that your group claims to have instigated have thrown back other
efforts being discussed by a variety of parties to try to curb the anti
social behaviour on the OPH.

Unfortunately, your group has been able to achieve results with little
dialogue with involved parties and I expect that the changes will come back
to bite yourself and other locals big time on the bum at some point. Whether
it be by locals losing their licences due to accumulation of to many points
or to local businesses being affected as riders go elsewhere, you can smile
smugly whilst you sip your latte knowing full well that at least your life
is easier.

And no, I do not advocate using the road as a racetrack nor putting lives at
risk by other anti social riding habits, I just happen to feel that dialogue
is a preventative action not enforcement.

One final question, are we going to see names of members of this group as
most other similar type of groups name their members?



Garry

 

No one in their right mind would own up to being in that group.
Lets see...they live in the middle of nowhere and have done something to
aggravate bikers. Not a great combination.

Still, I applaud their sense of safety first. Too many people have come
to grief on that road. I guess its cheaper to lower the speed limit than
fix the road.

I had to see it for myself...I road from somersby to berowra this
afternoon. First time in years. The road is as bad as I remember it.
Spotted 2 cops...one in the bushes just after Road Warriors and one at
Berowra. They must be making a fortune.

 

As usual..........Peats Ridge Action Group...(who are the members??).... too
gutless to put a name to the email address.... mine is and
my name is Mark Donoghoe

not everyone who has an aftermarket pipe on a jap bike is a boy racer out of
his capability! and yes my bike is capable of 300+ but i choose where to do
that........in a controlled enviroment....

But you stereotype everyone on a jap bike... with an aftermarket pipe....

I don't stereotype everyone who lives on that stretch of road......... I
think and "yes" I am entitled to my opinion about "you".... that maybe not
everyone on the old road has the same opinion as you......

Are you an Retired Public Servant???

Anyway.... I hope that one day you are stereotyped and picked on for the
actions of the few who choose not to respect others...

Mark Donoghoe

Who Gives a shit what you think Action Group????

 

snip

So a genuine question or two.

Who is the group representing and who (ie organisations) are it's members?

Why the reference to 'Peats Ridge' in the name when it is not representative
of the problem stretch of road or is it an indicator to a wider intent
(mentioned in original post is possible actions on other roads)?

snip

Sorry, may be missing something here regarding the 'war on terror' line.

Was there dialogue with motoring organisations (yes all forms) as we all
know, it is not just motorcycles that are the problem?

What is to be the measurements used to determine success or failure (ie.
mention is made of possible 50kmh limit, what will determine if this is
required)?

How long as this group been campaigning for these (or other) actions?

Look, not trying to criticise what has been done as something needs to be
done to reduce the anti social behaviour but all the lowering of a speed
limit will achieve is pushing the hoons elsewhere (ie. they become someone
else's problem) or resulting in people copping infringements for speeds that
are lower than the road limit was 10 years ago.




Garry

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 04 Dec 2005 13:15:45 +1100

I suspect that's Hornsby command and the RTA's fault myself.

Yeah, resident groups might have had some input but "reduce speed" and
speed enforcement's been Hornsby's only answer for years now.

Of course the Area Commander said he'd make them do more consultation
and so on, but we can see how much that's worth eh?

Upper management's the same the whole world over.

Zebee

 

Zebee Johnstone wrote:

What other answers are available?

The MCC's desire to see the Old Road resurfaced to race track standards,
and the edges cleared of hard things to hit.....ain't gonna happen.

The re-education of the loony fringe riding _way_ over the top ain't
gonna happen...at least not in the next few years.

Dozing all the nice corners out of the road would, possibly, help, but
is not likely to happen.

How about we take Gerry's idea of the machine gun post, change it to
firing lots of paintball type "bullets", have it rader linked, so it
automatically fires at speeds over 80, and set up at random points along
the road. (It could be loaded with a really offensive paint colour,
like maybe fluro Pink.)

regards,
CrazyCam

 

snip

I do recognise a 'troll' but in this case the results are genuine and
have been implemented so in many ways the comments by this person are
not 'trolling' (at least IMO).

With regards to your comments I was unsure as to whether you were
genuine or not.

snip

Those living at Peats Ridge would likely use the F3 to get to Hornsby
and take the Berowra exit or if traveling to Gosford or Newcastle would
not use the OPH. I am also aware of a group of Residents and others of
the OPH who have been working with authorities to try to gain some
actions so that is why ask.
Those who use the Highway would likely not have problems with the vast
majority of motorcycles (at least my cousins and family who are
resident at Mooney and Brooklyn do not have problems).

snip

Refer aove comments mentioning other groups who have been trying to
liaise with authorities to sort out the issues. The question basically
is asked as the other groups had no knowledge of the PRAG until the
newsgroup postings and subsequent actions.

snip

Sounds reasonable although I do like the pink paintgun pellets
suggested elsewhere as it will mess up the fairing colours.



Garry

 

Has he got a flush-mount left indicator for a GPX250?


BTP

 

gawd it's amazing what lingo that ol army cooks manage to pick up during
their tour of duty.

I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

 

I'm missing a Union Jack sticker off the left hand side of the Trumpy. Also
a couple of fairing bolts...allen key ones please...suitable for right
handers.

I choose Polesoft Lockspam to fight spam, and you?
http://www.polesoft.com/refer.html

 

Yeah but then you'd start riding the RZ up and back past it as 82 Km/hr
on purpose ! ;-)

JL

 

BTP? Oh Clem is gonna have fun with that when he gets to work!

Booth Turd Puncher?

 

Can't agree more.... usual cut off your hand to spite your face!!!!

I will be riding past kooeeing whilst the police have a local stopped
writing him up.... Maybe they should get the RTA in on the act as I am sure
that there would be a few local defective motor vehicles (hark""" maybe
even belonging to ACTIVE??? members of the Peats Ridge ACTION GROUP??) used
along that stretch of road.....

 

It would be Gosford/Brisbane Waters local command as the changes are North
of the Brooklyn Bridge only

It's still 80 kph south Mooney Mooney, including the bridge itself


ck

 

*Looks at enormous distance between "P" and "H" on keyboard, wonders
how that typo happened...*


HTB