What happened here then? [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/7423832.stm[/URL]
Race a biker in your crap Sierra and you die, and your family dies, and everyone you know dies. That'll learn them. We need more of this sort of thing.
IIRC the bike pretty much sliced the car in half, in what I seem to recall might have been a 40 zone.
Although I have no sympathy for inconsiderate cunts (which also means I'm not sorry for the Sierra passengers), it appears that he didn't even touch another vehicle, so I don't see how his inarguably dangerous riding is directly linked to the deaths. This guy: http://www.visordown.com/news/article.asp?sp=&v=1&uan=4792 got less time in jail for actually killing a man after botching a wheelie. On the other hand, the former idiot probably deserved the extra time in jail just for wheelie-ing around after such an accident. Geo
It looks to me as if the bloke on the bike raced a car, the car driver lost control and took out a few innocents so the bloke on the bike was jailed for more time than he'd get for kicking someone to death.
"Trials-type motorcycle", "The car was travelling at more than 100 mph", "wheelies after the accident". Something seems a bit dodgy.
What happened: 1. Car and bike try it on a bit 2. Knob in car hits somebody else in car - bad results all around 3. Bloke on bike, rather than fucking off sharpish, phones plod/ambulance 4. Inspector Morse spots that everybody else is too dead or too innocent to blame and collars bloke on bike 5. Bloke on bike gets brief 6. Brief say, "Plead not guilty and you'll get 10 years, plead guilty at the first opportunity and you'll get 1/3rd knocked off that straight away. That'll be 200 guineas, please". 7. Bloke on bike pleads guilty 8. Blokes in CPS get the afternoon off to go to a lap-dancing club in Soho 9. Bloke on bike gets 6.5 years, eligible for parole in 2 years 2 months, rather than the 3 years and 4 months they'd have had to have waited if they'd risked their balls and gone for a "not guilty" plea and taken their chances on the jury all being posters here. 10. Society wins. Or something. -- AndrewR, D.Bot (Celeritas) Aprilia RSV-1000R, Honda VFR750F-L, Kawasaki ZX-6R, Fiat Coupe 20v Turbo BOTAFOT#2,ITJWTFO#6,UKRMRM#1/13a,MCT#1,DFV#2,SKoGA#0 (and KotL) BotToS#5,SBS#25,IbW#34, DS#5, COSOC# Suspended, KotTFSTR# The speccy Geordie twat.
It's quite well established that in the event of "racing" causing a death all parties to the race would bear some blame, if not necessarily equal. The 6.5 year sentence does seem harsh, but it sounds like he was being a complete **** in a built-up area, so maybe it was deserved. Not sure that should be viewd as related, but yeah, sounds like a total ****. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
There's been a fairly recent case of two cars racing when one of them struck another car, killing all 3 of its occupants. Both drivers were found equally culpable and given 7 years each. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1561652/Drivers-who-killed-three-while-racing-are-jailed.html
Yes, and the article suggested that the fine upstanding brothers in the photograph were driving the Sierra and died in the crash. Hence them not being jailed.
<Daily Mail mode=On> Once again this country's so-called 'justice' system turns out to be one rule for the dead and another for the living! How long are decent, hard-working, Britons prepared to sit idle while the dead, including dead immigrants, go un-punished? We say to Mr. Brown, "Life should mean life"! <DM mode=Off>
According to the Daily Mail the motorcycle was 300 yards away when the accident happened. Not much of a race then! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-sons-7-4-killed-biker-100mph-car-chase.html "The court heard the race began in Shuttlewood after Knights rode his Yamaha motorbike out of his father's garage, in pursuit of the Sierra. He was going 75mph and was eight seconds behind the car when it crashed."
He's a teenager and pc bigfoot probably gave him the nasty cop routine. It's not too hard to imagine a scenario where the kid on the bike's sitting in an interview room with someone giving him a hard time until he admits he was 'racing'. The silly little fucker was probably totally in the wrong but he's been banged up in jail whereas someone a bit older and more wised up might have got off with either a shorter spell behind bars or a spot of community service. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's ridden in way that could be described as racing and if they'd gone wrong it could have been me sitting in a prison cell rather than sitting in a poxy hotel room posting to a newsgroup...
I don't quite get it, I expected the bike to be half a mile ahead. Catching up with an already speeding car and doing 75 might still be stupid, but not stupid enough to justify such a heavy sentence in my view (still, bonus points for the wheelies and offering no help). I might have been thinking otherwise if they were my sons that died in the crash, but it seems exaggerated. Geo
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I wouldn't be surprised if he just said he was trying to catch up with the car - I'm sure the beak would be happy to construe that as "racing".
Well racing used to be defined as driving/riding above the posted limit without a fixed leader, which meant that as long as one of the racers was faster than the rest you weren't really racing. AIUI the definition has now been changed to "driving/riding competitively", which can presumably mean just about anything the CPS want it to and would include trying to catch up with another road user.