F.O.A.K: Timestamp problem

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by tallbloke, Apr 27, 2005.

  1. tallbloke

    tallbloke Guest

    Can anyone spot why my palmpilot posts an hour ahead of local time from these
    headers

    NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:12:22 -0500
    From: tallbloke@palmpilot (tallbloke)
    Subject: Re: Da Vinci Code "Best Book"
    Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:12:26 GMT+0
    Newsgroups: uk.rec.motorcycles
    Message-ID: <BE95CCDAyf@palmpilot>
    X-Newsreader: Yanoff 1.5.4 PalmPilot


    I've got the date ok but the NNTP posting dates looks skewed by an hour.

    How do I fix that then?

    Bloody GPL software :eek:)
     
    tallbloke, Apr 27, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    -0500?

    Where are you?

    East coast of the US?



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    Catman Guest

    Ignore that, I'm not thinking.
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    Catman, Apr 27, 2005
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  4. tallbloke

    Eddie Guest

    Posted via a server in the US?
    Assuming you're in the UK, your timezone's wrong.
    That would be why, I guess.
    Should be in the OS, somewhere, shouldn't it?
    "A bad workman always blames his tools."
     
    Eddie, Apr 27, 2005
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    BORG Guest


    Have you set it for daylight saving ?
     
    BORG, Apr 27, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    Well, it won't That's the server time stamp, innit?
    17:38 -0500 works out as 2238 GMT, add daylight saving time: 23:38
    Which is your local time


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    Catman, Apr 28, 2005
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  7. tallbloke

    tallbloke Guest

    OK.

    So if altering the zone from GMT+0 to GMT+1 on the local device makes no
    difference, and the NNTP time stamp is the same whether I post from Xnews
    on the lappy or Yanoff on the Palmpilot, howcome the time of posting and
    the order the posts come up in xnews in non-threaded mode are an hour
    different? The date and time going out in the headers from the palmpilot
    are correct, yet when I posted at midnight, the time of the post according
    to the server was 1am.

    Also, I can't find any daylight saving time toggle in PalmOs 5 which might
    make a difference, or am I being thick?
     
    tallbloke, Apr 28, 2005
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  8. tallbloke

    Catman Guest

    Sorry, different from what?
    Possibly the reader is picking up the wrong timestamp, or munging it in some
    way. I'm not 100% sure without seeing some more example.
    No idea. Never used OS 5. It might make a difference as to how the time is
    calculated backwards and how the reader software is working IYSWIM.

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    Catman, Apr 28, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    From each other. If I post at midnight from Xnews, then Poll, the post I
    wrote is shown in a list of other posts people have just made, as having been
    made at midnight.

    If I post from the palmpilot, The post appears to have been posted an hour
    into the future at 1am, and continues to stay at the end of the (sorted by
    time posted) list of posts made by everyone for another hour.

    Anyway, I've just installed a newer (GPL forked commercial) version of Yanoff
    to see if that sorts it.
     
    tallbloke, Apr 28, 2005
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    rog Guest

    Can't find an option for it in palm-os.
     
    rog, Apr 28, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    Gotcha. Is that the NNTP posting date or the other one?
    Indeed.

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    Catman, Apr 28, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    That's the wierd thing. The NNTP date is the same both on Xnews on my
    Laptop, and on Yanoff form the palm. Bute for the 'date' header, Xnews has
    the same as the NNTP date, GPLYanoff has the local time, which looks
    correct but posts an hour ahead.
    Hmmm, well it sorted the timestamp problem, but it crashes the Palmpilot
    when I try to followup everytime since the first successful post ^upthere.
    And it didn't get my posting name right either...

    Ah well, over to the Yanoff mailing list...
     
    tallbloke, Apr 28, 2005
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  13. tallbloke

    Catman Guest

    Just as well, really ;) I don't get the NNTP date on the headers from Knode.
    No idea why
    OK, assuming that you're posting to the same server with each one ;) you've
    probably found a bug in the software. It's calculating local time from
    NNTP posting date, and getting it wrong.
    Almost certainly a bug
    Aye.

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    Catman, Apr 28, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    Hmmm. weeell, I guess I'm waiting for america to return from work at this
    point...
     
    tallbloke, Apr 28, 2005
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    Catman Guest

    I thought America should all be awake, by now.
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  16. tallbloke

    tallbloke Guest

    looks that way.
     
    tallbloke, Apr 28, 2005
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    tallbloke Guest

    In the traffic on the way home...
     
    tallbloke, Apr 28, 2005
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  18. tallbloke

    tallbloke Guest

    !
    wibbled:
    East edge of the pennines.
    I've just altered the zone from GMT+0 to GMT+1
     
    tallbloke, Nov 30, 2008
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  19. tallbloke

    tallbloke Guest

    !
    wibbled:
    Yebbut, I've just altered that and it hasn't altered the
    nntp posting time:

    NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 17:38:30 -0500
    From: tallbloke@palmpilot (tallbloke)
    Subject: Re: F.O.A.K: Timestamp problem
    Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 23:38:47 GMT+1
    Yeah yeah.
     
    tallbloke, Nov 30, 2008
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