F1 GP Monaco

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Paul Carmichael, May 24, 2009.

  1. Why?
     
    Paul Carmichael, May 24, 2009
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    Eiron Guest

    The amusing crashes.
     
    Eiron, May 24, 2009
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    Ace Guest

    Good, wasn't it?
     
    Ace, May 24, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Loved the comedy ending.
     
    ogden, May 25, 2009
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  5. Paul Carmichael

    Ace Guest

    I was just waiting for him to pop into a portaloo on the way round...
     
    Ace, May 25, 2009
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  6. Paul Carmichael

    CT Guest

    Search me.

    If ever a season proved that it's all in the car and has nothing to do
    with the driver it's this one.
     
    CT, May 26, 2009
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  7. Paul Carmichael

    ogden Guest

    Barrichello might disagree.
     
    ogden, May 26, 2009
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  8. Paul Carmichael

    CT Guest

    Might he?

    Naturally, I'm cherry-picking my data: Button goes from playboy &
    perennial back of the pack stalwart to being the Next Big Thing and
    last year's Best Ever Driver becomes an also ran. All due to the cars
    as far as I can tell from the media coverage I've stumbled across. I
    happy to be enlightened, natch.

    Heaven forbid that I might actually watch a race!
     
    CT, May 26, 2009
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  9. Paul Carmichael

    Krusty Guest

    Yes & no. It's often said the main guage of a driver's ability is how
    he does against his team-mate, & in that respect, Button's one of the
    best out there. But yes, how you do against other teams is mainly down
    to the car, although a driver who's good at identifying its weak points
    & thus aiding development is obviously handy to have.


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    Krusty, May 26, 2009
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  10. Paul Carmichael

    Andrew998 Guest

    But surely there's a balance to be struck. Without the technical extremes
    and outright engineering excellence you might as well put them on identical
    sports thousands and leave them to it. Sure the mega budgets mean you have a
    few teams out on their own (but not this year in F1 - the big budgets don't
    seem to be kicking in yet) but you don't want to lose the innovation. I
    think F1 have got it right by trying to limit the budgets although they've
    tried to move too far too quickly (£250m to £mom in one go is a huge step
    and, if nothing else, puts a lot of people out of work).
     
    Andrew998, May 26, 2009
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  11. Paul Carmichael

    ogden Guest

    It sounds like you should be watching A1GP, not F1.
     
    ogden, May 26, 2009
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  12. Paul Carmichael

    SteveH Guest

    Button has been demonstrably quicker than Rubens this season.

    He's even proven that he's right up there with the best when it comes to
    putting in one super 'hot' lap just when it's needed - like his pole at
    the weekend.

    What Button has demonstrated is Prost-like care for his machinery.

    His win at Monaco was purely down to being by far the smoothest driver
    on the track - he made the super-soft tyres work where others couldn't,
    whilst still putting in remarkably quick laps.

    Whilst there's no doubt the Brawn is a very good car, I do think that
    many other drivers on the grid wouldn't have been able to take this
    opportunity and make it pay with such dominance.

    Hamilton, for example, would shred the super-softs due to his more
    aggressive style.

    One thing that has puzzled me is that Rubens has been so far off
    Button's pace at times - I always rated him as a quick driver and always
    thought he was quite a smooth driver, too - but he destroys the softer
    tyre choice much quicker than Button in every race.

    Anyway, Button's position has been made to look a lot more dominant than
    it is as Brawn have been incredibly consistent whilst others have
    'popped and banged' - Red Bull dropped off the pace in a big way at
    Monaco, but Ferrari almost came good. If any other team had been
    consistent in challenging Brawn, then we wouldn't be talking about
    titles so soon into the season.
     
    SteveH, May 26, 2009
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  13. Paul Carmichael

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    This is where reading the complete thread saves replicating answers.

    I find A1GP about as interesting as watching paint fall off damp walls
    and though I can't really be bothered with the normal F1 tedium at
    least they reward innovation.
     
    Andy Bonwick, May 26, 2009
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  14. Paul Carmichael

    prawn Guest

    Speaking of consistency, the Mercedes engine Button used won it's third
    consecutive race at Monaco which is a remarkable reliability signifier.
     
    prawn, May 26, 2009
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