FA: Giali reinforced denim jackets & jeans

Aye. nasty grazing is the worst I've ever done - one time I pretty
much wore away the leather belt that was holding up my levis, and
there was, admittedly, some blood, but no _real_ damage to me. Most of
the time after such crashes I'd be more pissed off at having to buy
new jeans than about any 'injuries'.

But it does seem to show that human skin and flesh is in fact fairly
abrasion resistant in itself.

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I think the damage that's on Andy's legs are probably one of your rare
cases and its not the fact he was wearing jeans at the time of his
accident but more due to the fact that the wreck he hit exploded in a
pile of rust than anything.

you will find that he does modify the extremeness of his riding when
out in jeans and trainers though...until the renowned bonwick "fuckit"
state of mind kicks in.

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yep but that doesn't fit in with your comment of "rarely suffered more
than a few grazes".

but then half of them were caused by doing other stupid things rather
than bike accidents.

it amused me when we were looking for a house in bedford. it seemed
that almost every place we went there was a "I fell off there..."
comment.

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There's a bounce factor to take into account, IMO.

 

I'll wear jeans to pop into town, but that's about the only time. It's
the impact resistence I'm worried about though, not abrasion. I'd
happily wear jeans for hooning if they had decent armour on the hips &
knees.

Funny you should mention that - I've just had new tyres fitted to
Pinkie. Thanks for the reminder to be carefull

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That's one of the few situations where a long tarmac surf is likely I
s'pose.

That was probably the most 'interesting' ride I've had. Left Aylesbury
early one morning in January with SO on the back, heading for mid Wales
to see my parents. It was one of those bright, cloudless January
mornings - but well below zero & ice everywhere. We got snowed on
heavily crossing the Cotswolds, then it pissed it down with freezing
rain, finally clearing up again a few miles from our destination. Then
literally less than 100 yards from my parent's house, the sheep bolted
into the road & we ploughed into them. Bloody frustrating after
surviving all those slippery roads!

Every road crash I've had was on my R65 & all in the same year. That
was 21 years ago. I think that bike was jinxed.

Yep, but the 1.4 - 2 second brand of aramid jeans would've been good
enough in all of my road crashes, & Champ's & Ace's too by the sound of
it.


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I wear jeans most of the time for one reason; Built for purpose bike
gear looks ok while you're *on* the bike, but as soon as you get off,
you like like a prize nobhead.

If I'm out purely to ride, knowing I won't be stopping anywhere except
traffic lights, then I'll wear leathers, but even then, it's only so I
can have a bit of a giggle dragging the sliders around.

You crash!? ****, I wish I'd known.

<illusions shattered>

 

Speak for yourself.



















































I look like a prize nobhead whatever I wear, all the time.

 

Actually now you mention it... my assorted offs :

1) muddy ditch (or whatever it was) on the FOT - no sliding, just bump
bump splosh - so impact (no damage to kit)
2) T-Boning car - no sliding, but I did land fairly heavily on my back
(twice) and twisted a knee (but no major damage again to kit or me)
3) Crash at Rockingham track day- the only one with a slide which
scuffed my knee sliders [1] and the hip part of leathers - but only
slightly.
4) Hit from behind - no impact at all - whiplash.

So in all those instances with the exception of rockingham, if I had
the body armour on, I could otherwise have been wearing t-shirt and
shorts.


[1] the only time I've got my knee down

 

<nods>

Even when I lobbed the Wing up the road the other year, I didn't
damage my jeans. Only injury was a big graze on my left arm, where the
cuff zip of the jacket rubbed on the road.

My helmet looked like it had been attacked by an angle grinder,
thobut.
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<snip>

Judging by your list of "experiences", I'd say you know *plenty* about
the subject! ;-)

The test establishes a hierarchy of performance for materials and
combinations thereof. The hierarchy reflects empirical evidence of what
'works' and protects a motorcyclist in a slide along the tarmac, and
what does not. This is based on examination of somewhere way in excess
of 320 damaged garments; some of which protected the wearer, some of
which did not. The peer review of the research is contained in
"Performance of Protective Clothing: Fifth Volume (ASTM)", which I have
quoted previously.

Other test methods either "skew" the hierarchy (the Darmstadt machine
infamously rated sheep nappa above racing-grade hide, for example), or
are incapable of accepting some of the complex textile structures which
commonly appear in modern motorcycling clothing.

Standardised test methods are not intended to replicate "real life",
which is uncontrolled and often chaotic. What they do is ensure each
test piece is subjected to the same level and extent of evaluation, so
a direct comparison against a benchmark - or against comparable
materials/products - can be made.

HTH

 

I have previously posted figures on the relative abrasion resistance of
human tissue. Those with a strong stomach might wish to Google for it.
*)

 

<searches files for an appropriate test report>

New denim: 0.56 seconds (see p 66 in ASTM papers)
Used denim: 0.22 seconds

 

Paul Varnsverry wrote

I bet bloke skin is better than burd skin. I know which I would rather
be in.

And I don't want none of your soft pink never seen the light of day
norvern poofter skin either. Gimme that good old sun dried southern
skin any day mate. Skin to be in that is.

 

# Brown is the colour of skin
# That I’d like to be in,
# ’cause it doesn’t feel right
# To be coloured so white.

 

# It's not easy being green...

 

Heh, well I know I prefer hitting sheep to cars, given the choice.

Which I suppose is the only way to give the consumer the necessary
information to choose between products, which is fair enough. However
the incredibly in-depth & scientific 2006 UKRM PPE survey generated by
this thread indicates that impact protection is far more important than
abrasion protection, & the first manufacturer to develop a high-impact
leg/hip exo skeleton[1] that doesn't make you look like a complete
retard will become fabulously wealthy in a very short space of time
(and breathe....).

It does, as always.

[1] Preferrably with TRON-style light tubes.

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