Failed practical test today.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by RonD, Oct 11, 2006.

  1. RonD

    RonD Guest

    I didn't realise how bad I would feel after failing my bike test today.
    I got 2 minor faults for appropriate speed, not quite fast enough and 1
    fault for rear observation, but the thing that failed me was when I put my
    foot down on the uturn.
    I've never put my foot down in all my practise sessions and then a slight
    error ends my chances of passing.
    The examiner told my instructer that I should have passed.
    Can someone just tell me why it's so crucial and wouldn't it be better to
    give 4 marks for an error like that.
    Booked myself in for 3 weeks time but I feel as sick as a pig.

    RonD, Oct 11, 2006
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    Cane Guest

    Hey, don't worry about it. You'll pass with flying colours in 3 weeks
    Cane, Oct 11, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    That gets a lot of people.
    Yep, they're a bit strict on it.
    Then the **** should've passed you.
    I've no idea, other than the ability to turn a bike around within the width
    of the road being a quite useful skill to master and you wouldn't want to
    look a **** when you fetch up at your local bike meet "paddling", would
    you?. I still think it's a bit harsh to fail someone one though if the other
    aspects of the test result in bugger all i9n the way of major faults. A "4"
    would be reasonable IMO.
    Think of it as a golden opportunity to get some practice in and make sure
    you do. Beta blockers before the test may help too:)


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    Beav, Oct 11, 2006
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    mr p Guest

    .. I did my test 10 years ago... but I think they failed you because you
    need to show ability to control the bike at low speed. Also if you put
    your foot down then possibly you have stopped because you attempted the
    manoevure when the road condidions were not apropriate.

    I remember learning the importance of rear obs.when out on a training
    ride, one of the trainers deliberatly came up on the inside at a
    junction, a very valuable lesson.My advice is take the opportunity to
    go through every thing again and get it right, enjoy it !
    mr p, Oct 11, 2006
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    MikeH Guest

    I've always found that putting my foot down looks less stupid than not
    putting your foot down and then dropping the bike.

    I have tried both.
    MikeH, Oct 11, 2006
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    RonD Guest

    Thanks everyone.
    All your comments helped make me feel a bit better.
    Just one of those bad days.
    I'll keep trying until I pass and I'll let you know.

    Many Thanks
    RonD, Oct 11, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    Oh well. You put your foot down during a u-turn - shit happens. If
    you didn't put your foot down would you have dropped the bike?
    Possibly - and that would look even more silly.

    A U-Turn is a low speed control thing - anyone can ride a bike at
    speed, low speed takes a bit more thought. Shit happens. I'm sure
    you'll pass next time and if you don't then just rebook it again. You
    will pass.

    I didn't pass first time and I'm a riding God[1] now.

    [1] Lie.
    BGN, Oct 11, 2006
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    Klaatu Guest

    Which bike are you using ?
    Klaatu, Oct 11, 2006
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    RonD Guest

    it's a Kawasaki ER5 I think.
    RonD, Oct 11, 2006
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    RonD Guest

    I don't know what happened, it was almost as if I sabotaged myself.
    It was wet with rain and it was as if things where going too well and I
    lost concentration.
    I think I would have dropped the bike. It was rediculous.
    I think i tried to get in another rear observation after moving off and
    lost direction.
    That's it, I saw the cd rom from the DLA and the rider looked behind after
    moving off.
    I have been told to look behind before moving off only. I changed my
    RonD, Oct 11, 2006
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    Kiran Guest

    Crucial is that U-turn. You'll be needing it every time you ride, so it's a
    good thing they fail muppets who can't do it.
    Kiran, Oct 11, 2006
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    zymurgy Guest

    My trainer did the same thing if you didn't hug the kerb during the
    turn, to ensure you had the right road postition (i.e stopping anything
    coming through on the inside, cycle, scooter etc)

    zymurgy, Oct 11, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    Heh, you and me both then.


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    Beav, Oct 12, 2006
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    Molly Guest

    One of the most common causes of failure.
    It happens.
    The "U" turn demonstrates the ability to:
    Make correct obervations.
    Good clutch control
    Good brake control
    Good throttle control
    Good balance.
    Good Man.
    Molly, Oct 12, 2006
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    Chris Cowley Guest

    Rotten luck.

    On my U-turn, I almost put my foot down right near the end of the
    maneuver (took it right off the peg for a split second), but caught
    myself doing it, managed to sort it all out (by letting the clutch out a
    bit so the bike started moving again instead of wobbling around in
    no-mans land...), and called myself a hopeless **** under my breath. The
    examiner actually laughed out loud, patted me on the back and said "You
    alright there?". Must've been a close call I reckon, but I passed (he
    did give me a "minor" for poor control in the U turn, and quite right

    I'm sure you'll pass next time. The best advice my instructor gave me
    was that everyone starts their practical test with a pass. It's only if
    you screw up too much that the examiner takes your licence away. That
    may seem blindingly obvious, but that attitude somehow worked for me as
    far as confidence goes; I wasn't on my test to earn my licence, but to
    demonstrate to the examiner that he shouldn't take it away.
    Chris Cowley, Oct 12, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    I think it's best if you stick with the method you're used to,
    especially if your riding school has no problem with it.
    BGN, Oct 12, 2006
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    Dan L Guest

    RonD tossed off:
    Talk yourself through it.
    May sound daft, but it worked for me.

    I still couldn't do the ridden U Turn 30 mins before my test, but found
    that talking myself through the manouevre made it all seem to come

    Best of luck.

    Dan L

    1996 Kawasaki ZR1100 Zephyr

    BOTAFOT #140 (KotL 2005/6)
    BOMB#18 (slow)
    Dan L, Oct 12, 2006
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    BGN Guest

    I used to have one of them. Shit bikes they are.

    Look what mine did on the way back from work one day:
    <> - you don't want to U-Turn on a bike that
    does things like that without giving you a few minutes warning.
    BGN, Oct 12, 2006
  19. Beav wrote
    Shit happens.

    Just accept that this will be the first of many "the whole fucking world
    hates bikers" stories that you will be able to tell your grandchildren.

    Beta blockers?? Bollox to that, the man needs confidence, cocaine is
    the only answer.
    steve auvache, Oct 12, 2006
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    Beav Guest

    Speedballs and beta blockers together. YKIMS


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    Beav, Oct 12, 2006
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