[QUOTE="Knobdoodle"] X-No-archive: yes Yeah that's basically it. It was born when the 4cyl two-strokes were becoming rapidly more-powerful at the end of the seventies and into the 80s. If they spun-up while leant-over they'd generally highside the rider into orbit as the tyre stepped-out and the spring unloaded, but if the bike was more upright when the rear spun it would be far less savage and just "walk" out, so the method became to artificially finish cornering early and then gass it up and let the back tyre finish the corner while you're accellerating onto the straight (and while your opposition is still heeled-over finishing the corner and unable to accellerate.)[/QUOTE] I wonder if that's what the bike in this vid was trying to do (or was he just going too hot on cold tyres) [URL]http://www.cpdserver.com/chasecam/video/crash-med.wmv[/URL] MOike