Fat kids

Met a bloke on my hols recently. Nice bloke, some sort of medical type. At
the time we were at a place with a pool and there were quite a few fat kids
there. In particular there were two *very* fat german kids, in the Augustus
Gloop mode. Very fat, with very fat parents. Lots of jumping in the pool,
followed by a lot of wheezing when getting out. They were 8ish and 12ish,
had rolls of fat a la michelen men and needed lots of rests in between
bursts of activity.

Now the medical bloke got very upset at the site of these breathless
teutonic tubbies and was highly critical of their porky parents.

He was of the firm opinion that to have fed them up to such vastness
constituted abuse and also voiced the opinion that in the nearish future it
*would* be classed as abuse and steps taken by social workers and the like.
He cited the immenient health problems and probable social problems these
prokers would suffer as the reason for claiming they were being abused.

After some pondering I decided that i didn't know if he was right or not.

It seems excessive to describe it as abuse but at the same time they were
*really* fucked up physically and you did have to wonder about their long
term prospects. If they had become similary unfit because the parents gave
them piles of cigaretteres I guess it would be regarded as abuse so why not
regard overfeeding as the same.

So,what does the FOAK think?

 

It's pretty poor parenting. But then as the man said "You see lots of fat
people, and lots of old people, but how many fat, old people do you see?"

 

I think that once an American invents a car that runs on body fat, it will
cease to be an issue...


(I can't be bothered with the socio-political thinking on fat cunts, 'cause
I are one)

 

But presumably, if you sired a fat child you might get agitated if it was
taken into care?

 

Medical bloke said that in some ways it was worse than violence in that a
child being hit with a stick would soon realise that if was being treated
badly but one being stuffed with sweets and cake would regard this as
generous loving behaviour when it fact it was being fucked up.

 

I think it's a parent's responsibility to ensure that their children
have a balanced diet and a healthy lifestyle in the same way that also
you want the best education available.

'Abuse' is a bit of an emotive term really as it conjures up images of
violence but allowing your children to become unhealthily overweight
still equates to physical harm in my book.

Having said that some people are happy to smoke around their kids which
is worse in my opinion.

 

flash wrote

Obviously doesn't understand the concept of "Holiday" then does he.
Twat.

 

I suspect that they would still retain their extra bulk during term time.

 

I think you're awful for letting the abuse continue, you should have
pushed the parents into the pool, then in the loudest german accent you
can manage yelled at the kids..

Torte ist verboten, wenn Sie Torte essen, die Sie sterben.
(Eating pie will kill you)

You're a European now man.. Accept responsibility.

 

Well that's the point innit? You *don't* sire a fat child, you tend to have
a normal one and give it too many cakes.

Even though I have consumed too many pies, I would be very pissed off at
myself if I couldn't control the weight of my child.

 

Whoosh.

 

flash wrote

Not if I was in charge they wouldn't. I hate fat kids, the dinner
ladies would go all broody when they saw pudgy red cheeks and give them
seconds, us poor fucking skinny kids "didn't need as much" did we.
Cunts.

 

If pate from stuffed fowl can be seen as animal abuse, I cannot see why
this shouldn't be considered child abuse unless the child has an
underlying medical condition.

 

"A fat person is just a thin person waiting to be whittled." E. Gein

 

Obesity helps keep you younger looking.

 

It's a little different don't you think? You can't compare a child who
eats too much because he's a pig, to a bird that has a pipe stuck down
its throat & food force-fed under pressure into its stomach until it
nearly explodes (& frequently does).

 

Perhaps I am just revolted by the eating habits of others.

 

I think it would be more reasonable to classify it as a form of "neglect".
If parents severely under-feed their children it is classified as neglect,
I don't see why severe over-feeding should be regarded differently.

Tony

 

I think he is going far too far in adopting such an emotive term.

A small proportion of children will have a medical condition that causes
excessive weight gain. That cannot be deemed as abuse.

Governments have readily sanctioned the cost cutting and private sector
involvement in education that result in appalling quality school meals,
the removal of physical education lessons, sweets and soft drinks being
sold in schools and the selling off of playing fields. When the means
for delivering fit and healthy children are removed from the education
system I don't see how parents can be deemed to be abusive if their kids
are fat.

In addition a significant proportion of parents have no clue whatsoever
about nutrition and cooking and exercise. Is it any wonder when the
medical professionals demonstrably have little clue or consensus
themselves as to what works and what does not?

When the government happily permits the mass destruction of our
traditional means of gaining exercise and buying decent food by
encouraging car based transport and large out of town shopping centres
and supermarkets what are people supposed to do? When public transport
is left to rack and ruin and parents are terrified to allow little
Johnny to walk to school in case he is murdered on the way what options
are left? When the government will not invest in preventative
healthcare and will not regulate to prevent inappropriate advertising to
children what are parents to do? The government can and should take
some decisive steps to change policy in a number of key areas to turn
back the influence of private companies who don't care one jot for the
problems they create so long as they are earning their profits.

I accept there is an element of parental responsibility but there are
major societal and medical issues that require resolution before parents
can be provided with the knowledge and life skills to deal with obesity
issues afflicting their children. Parents cannot fully compensate for
the external effects that are giving rise to these health issues.

Abuse - not at all.

 

flash fumbled, fiddled and fingered:

That there's too much fucking interference in society. Can't smoke,
can't drink, can't speed, can't use petrol, can't eat too much, can't
eat too little, can't make jokes based on anything that may remotely
upset someone, obsessed with celebs and appearance.

Minute by minute we're becoming fucking Californian!

Who decides what's too fat or too thin? As I understand it this
definition differs with other societies and ethnic groups anyway.

What the **** happened to minding your own business? So long as the kids
are happy enough and not being force fed what's the problem?

<rant over>


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