FFS, you could get a decent 400 Four for this

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by The Older Gentleman, Apr 2, 2006.

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    Cab Guest

    Cab, Apr 2, 2006
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    Ken Guest


    The sad result of mundane old shit like Superdreams etc, being thought
    of as "classics" is that there are plenty of clueless cunts out there,
    prepared to pay strong money for this sort of thing!

    In my view posters here who seemingly dont have much grasp of what is a
    proper classic bike, are as equally responsible as members of the bike
    press, and dodgy bike dealers, for prices of this stuff going through
    the roof.................amusing that you all whine about whats
    effectively your own doing though...............lol

    k
     
    Ken, Apr 2, 2006
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    Ken Guest



    I wouldnt honestly say that a CB550, CB200, and CX500 (ughhhhhhhhhh!),
    are really representative of particularly good
    taste................would you?

    k
     
    Ken, Apr 2, 2006
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    Ken Guest


    I feel the CX500 has quite a lot in common with the
    Superdream................lol

    k
     
    Ken, Apr 2, 2006
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    Ken Guest


    Original CB750 is certainly a proper classic bike, as are several other
    Honda models, but not a CX500 or Superdream................thats taking
    things a bit too far I think!

    k
     
    Ken, Apr 2, 2006
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  7. I should coco. And the 400 isn't even a very nice bike anyway. It
    vibrates, and the main bearings are a bit suspect. It's a Super Dream,
    ffs....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 2, 2006
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  8. Looks like it did. Some complete pillock paid £1350 for it. You could
    get a really nice 400 Four for that sort of dosh. Realistically, I
    reckon that 400N is worth about £700.

    Actually, that seller rings a bell. I'm sure I've bought stuff from him
    or sold stuff to him in the past.

    I'm pretty sure he's a trader. I can see what looks like an RG250 and an
    XS750 lurking in the background, plus some big tourer, and the CB750
    he's selling is also "being sold for a friend".
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 2, 2006
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  9. Incredibly advanced package for the era, and one of few Hondas to be
    designed with ownership as much in mind as riding.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 2, 2006
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    Ken Guest


    Yes would agree with you 100%.............the CX500 is just as you say,
    but the 2 Superdream models were most certainly apalling things, which
    are never going to become true classics! Saying that though a
    customised scooter was judged classic "bike" of the year recently, so
    you never know I supose.

    k
     
    Ken, Apr 2, 2006
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    Ken Guest


    A guy local to me drag races a CX500 and has spent quite a lot of money
    on it...................seems very very strange indeed!

    k
     
    Ken, Apr 2, 2006
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  12. does seem a bit high, mind, he claims a "full nut and bolt restoration", so
    presumably the nuts and bolts will be OK.

    Mind, the 400 SD was quite a reasonable bike, from what I gather. I nearly
    bought one once, but it had a rattly 2nd gear.
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 2, 2006
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  13. so he's a lying cnut as well...
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 2, 2006
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    Roger Hunt Guest

    That's reassuring, but I know that a 6mm bolt will sort of mate with a
    ¼"BSF nut, but not for long ...
     
    Roger Hunt, Apr 3, 2006
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  15. You gather wrong ;-)

    And for that sort of money.... words fail me.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 3, 2006
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    Ken Guest


    Nice to see you are still thinking of me................wonder if you
    have found any more single carb Daytona's.....................lol

    k
     
    Ken, Apr 3, 2006
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  17. I agree it was way overpriced. What's specifically wrong with the 400 SD
    though, that wasn't wrong with any other 80s jap twin?

    The one I took for a quick test spin didn't seem bad bar for the knackered
    second gear - if the 'box had been OK I'd probably have bought it. Mind, it
    was only about 400 notes, not 1350.
     
    Austin Shackles, Apr 3, 2006
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    A.Clews Guest

    Thus spake Loz H ([email protected]) unto the assembled multitudes:
    I had a lot of fun on my 250 SuperDream (which had a 250 Dream engine from
    a breakers), though when all is said and done it was a pile of shit and I
    wouldn't want another one. Its one big virtue IMHO was that it was
    comfortable. Strong cross-winds were terrifying because of those
    Comstar wheels.
     
    A.Clews, Apr 3, 2006
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    TOG Guest

    For that sort of dosh, OK.

    It's quite a harsh engine - probably something to do with the 360
    dgeree crank throws, and the chain-driven balancer doesn't really sort
    that out. The Z400 twin was also 360 degree, but although not as fast
    at the top end, had masses of torque, which made it really nice to
    ride.

    The Suzuki GS400 was immensely smoother, as fast, handled better and
    looked nicer. The Yamaha XS400 had very similar performance to the
    Honda, but was a lot cheaper o buy and much easier to maintain. And
    more rugged.

    The balancer chain shagged early on the Honda, the exhaust balnce box
    rotted through in very short order, and the camchain - well, it was a
    Honda. If fastidiously maintained, it lasted, but there was no real
    reason why you ought to buy one, and plenty of reasons to buy something
    else, IYSWIM.

    I bought one about 10 years ago, as a project for CMCM. Horrible thing.
     
    TOG, Apr 3, 2006
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    Hog Guest

    I seem to recall the later 400N was a much nicer bike
     
    Hog, Apr 3, 2006
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