Filtering or not filtering.....That is the question

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by NW Biker, Oct 15, 2006.

  1. NW Biker

    NW Biker Guest

    Filtering.
    A subject I have read about on here seems to attract many differing
    responses.
    Lane 2a seems appropriate
    Lane 1a is fraught with danger from lorry back ends and blind spots.
    I ride with my lights on at all times, and it seems to help until
    filtering.
    The main problem is that whatever lane I use it always seems to attract
    the utter cunts that want to drive over the dividing line just to block
    you off.
    I have a lovely dayglo green vest and fairly reflective clothing so not
    entirely invisible.
    Any tips for better filtering as I will soon be geting my bigger bike
    and would rather keep it the same shape and condition as when I buy it.
     
    NW Biker, Oct 15, 2006
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    SteveH Guest

    Filter at higher speeds.

    HTH.
     
    SteveH, Oct 15, 2006
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  3. NW Biker

    Cab Guest

    SteveH wrote:

    Well, I recommend filtering excessively fast, no hi-vi vest and without
    lights on, in the dark.

    Oh and on the peripherique, towards oncoming traffic.
     
    Cab, Oct 15, 2006
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  4. NW Biker

    TMack Guest

    You need to move to a better area. In my experience most cars ignore me and
    some move over to let me through. I can't think of any recent examples of
    cars appearing to deliberately block my progress. If the gap in front is
    too small to get through then just bide your time - sooner or later a gap
    will appear and then off you go. In fact my most annoying recent filtering
    experience was another bike riding about a foot off my rear wheel whilst I
    was making progress through slow moving traffic. I pulled over at the first
    opportunity and let him past but then he was no faster through the traffic
    than I had been! I think he found it easier when somebody else was judging
    the gaps before he had to go through. I followed him for at least 5 miles
    (at a more reasonable distance and sometimes taking a different filtering
    route) and at the end of it he had gained absolutely nothing and at times he
    had been holding me up. However, I was careful not to make any obvious kind
    of competition out of it as racing and filtering are not a good mix.
     
    TMack, Oct 15, 2006
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    deadmail Guest

    I think when one bike goes through the gap 'opens up' a little.
    Oh, I don't know. It's a good adrenaline rush.
     
    deadmail, Oct 15, 2006
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    Donegal Paul Guest

    Yep, my preferred certainly.
    Depends really on speed of overall traffic, though i have to admit, i only
    use 1a if all three lanes are really chockablock, as sometimes happens
    between J6 and 10 on the M1 or on stretches of the M25.
    Im not convinnced it does help me at all. I think that most motorists dont
    notice you at all until you're past them. I ride expecting them to change
    lanes without looking. I find it better for me to be aware of them than
    relying on them being aware of me.
    Could be the position you've taken up? ie, some motorists dont like bikes
    right on their offside rearend?
    I find it better to blend in to be honest and watch them than make myself
    too obvious, if you do, they might see you early, see you filtering for the
    last few cars or more, think you dont deserve to make progress when they
    cant and...................
    Be careful then, or just keep it in the garage :)
     
    Donegal Paul, Oct 15, 2006
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  7. NW Biker

    NW Biker Guest

    Cab submitted this idea :
    Is that the way you do it?
    I'm amazed you are alive then.......or are you?
     
    NW Biker, Oct 15, 2006
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  8. NW Biker

    NW Biker Guest

    TMack formulated the question :
    Where are you then ?
     
    NW Biker, Oct 15, 2006
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    mr p Guest


    The craft book says, 'maintain lane discipline at all times on the
    motorway ' and 'when filtering be ready(able ) to stop if required' I
    try to judge how much time I'm saving relative to the risks of the
    filtering conditions. It's a great feeling when it's totally blocked (
    happens quite often on the M3 this time of year.. ) It's possible to
    get carried away though.

    I not seen drivers deliberatly blocking motorbikes, sometimes people
    are just too dozy to realise they are straddling 2 lanes I'm affraid.
     
    mr p, Oct 15, 2006
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  10. NW Biker

    YTC#1 Guest

    Except when a slow bike is already there
    Thats the problem, just wear black !
    Yes, see space, make decision, go for it. Then move on to the next.

    Actually it all depends on how heavy the trafic is and how aware you are
    of your space. If uncomfortable, then do not do it. If it feels right do
    it.

    In comuter traffic I stick to approx 10mph over upto around 50mph. After
    that I slot back in. Occasionally I will pull the "nutter" card and fo 70+
    filtering.
     
    YTC#1, Oct 15, 2006
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    Nursey Guest

    Yep, feels good when you pull it off.

    During the commutes to work (not far but normally full of cars on dual
    carriage ways), I tend to have to slow down for the speed cameras whilst
    filtering. :)

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    Nursey, Oct 15, 2006
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    Howard Guest

    When last in the car London way (not experienced many high-speed
    filterers in Lancs) the most clearly seen filterers were those
    that weaved about a good deal between 2, 2a and 3..
     
    Howard, Oct 15, 2006
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  13. NW Biker

    Howard Guest

    Can cameras distinguish which vehicle is breaking the limit when
    there's more than one in its 'vision'?
     
    Howard, Oct 15, 2006
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  14. NW Biker

    deadmail Guest

    Eh? Since when did freemasons issue books on road use?
     
    deadmail, Oct 15, 2006
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  15. NW Biker

    YTC#1 Guest

    M602 ? :)
     
    YTC#1, Oct 15, 2006
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  16. NW Biker

    YTC#1 Guest

    Yes, they take a photgraph YTC !
    (Clue, little white lines)
     
    YTC#1, Oct 15, 2006
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  17. NW Biker

    Nursey Guest

    Nope, unless I want to take the long way round ;-)

    Now normally A34 from near Sainsburys/John Lewis all the way in to
    Manchester till I reach MRI.

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    Nursey, Oct 15, 2006
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    zymurgy Guest

    Grr. Fecking Paris. On a rainy Sunday evening via Versailles/Clamart.

    Definitely not for the faint hearted. However I did let a fair few
    bikes through (i was in cage), who were appreciative ...

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Oct 16, 2006
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  19. NW Biker

    Cab Guest

    Most of the time, if they have the time whilst filtering, they'll
    acknowledge considerate drivers.
     
    Cab, Oct 16, 2006
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  20. NW Biker

    Molly Guest

    IMO, filtering is one of the attractions of motorcycling and you will
    develop a sixth sense.
    Indeed.
     
    Molly, Oct 16, 2006
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