Filtering question.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Gavsta, Apr 13, 2009.

  1. Gavsta

    Gavsta Guest

    Fair enough - I thought it was a little naughty more than anything! I
    *did* get a friendly nod from the traffic bike cop that was speed
    checking on the road coming out of Sulby - luckily, Id slowed down after
    an overtake, and wasnt tonking along when he got the gun on me.

    4 other lads I spoke to at Parliament square got a talking to though.

    Dunno what this Islands coming to...

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    Gavsta, Apr 13, 2009
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  2. Only in places and it seems fairly happy for motorcyclists to filter
    (rules 88, 151, 160[1]) in a manner which seems to apply to the
    situation under discussion,

    Cheers,

    John

    [1] 88 "Manoeuvring.
    <snip>
    Additionally, when filtering in slow-moving traffic, take care and
    keep your speed low."

    151 "In slow-moving traffic. You should:
    <snip>
    * be aware of cyclists and motorcyclists who may be passing on
    either side"

    160 "Once moving you should
    <snip>
    * be aware of other road users, especially cycles and motorcycles
    who may be filtering through the traffic. "
     
    John Anderton, Apr 13, 2009
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    serf Guest

    Directional signs (red circles and blue circles) must be obeyed,
    warning and informational signs are not generally compulsory.
    There are at least 4 potential problems with this:
    i) If you cross the white line in front of the lights when red, then
    that is a bookable offence.
    ii) If you take off before the green light shows, then that is
    another.
    iii) If you wait for the green light, then you run the risk of being
    rear ended.
    iv) And if you do it day-in, day-out there is the possibility that you
    may eventually mistime your arrival just as the front car is taking
    off.

    Having said that, a large proportion of bikes do this in Central
    London, and when cage drivers expect it and bikes are fairly expert at
    it, it seems to work fine. Problems may arise when you get Arfur
    Hayseed visiting his cousins during rushhour.
     
    serf, Apr 13, 2009
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    Catman Guest

    Not common *on the road surface* are they?



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    Catman, Apr 13, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    heh. I just *knew* you were talking about the lights at the top of
    Bray Hill, well before I clicked on the link.
     
    Champ, Apr 13, 2009
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    serf Guest

    I was pretty sure that you would understand this comment as
    clarification for the benefit of Nige (and possibly others), and not
    as contradiction. My bad.
     
    serf, Apr 13, 2009
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  7. Gavsta

    Gavsta Guest

    ;) - over here I guess there's probably only 4 or 5 places in total that
    could be described in that way!

    But yes, thats exactly where is was.

    Ill be honest, Im just asking cos I did it, and it just, well, felt wrong.

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    Gavsta, Apr 13, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    Christ, it's 50/50 which side I ride down when I'm there on a bike.

    During TT week, about 50 bikes do it each time the lights change, so I
    wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
     
    Champ, Apr 13, 2009
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    Rudy Lacchin Guest

    The Highway code states: "If the queue on your right is moving more slowly
    than you are, you may pass on the left" (Rule 163). So it wouldn't be
    overtaking on the wrong side.

    Ignoring the lane marking when you get there is another matter. Rule 109
    states: "You MUST obey all traffic light signals... and traffic signs giving
    orders. Make sure you know, understand and act on all other traffic and
    information signs and road markings." (The word "MUST" is capitalised and
    printed in red but only appears to apply to the first sentence of the rule.)

    I don't think I've ever filtered on the inside in the way you describe but I
    often filter in a right-only lane and go straight on. I once did that past
    a police car which didn't pull me over (although that proves nothing).
     
    Rudy Lacchin, Apr 13, 2009
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  10. Gavsta

    Gavsta Guest

    TT weeks a lot different tho innit, theres a "relaxed" attitude to such
    things.

    Im just being overly paranoid I guess, of late Im analyzing a lot of
    what Im doing on the road - dunno why really.

    I need to get back on the track I think.

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    Gavsta, Apr 13, 2009
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    Champ Guest

    Quite so. And you could do worse than do that with a proven Gixxer
    600 K2 - after all, you ride one on the road, so it'll feel quite
    natural. Apart from the faster motor and better suspension. Gwan,
    you know you want mine!
     
    Champ, Apr 13, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    Unless the wrong side involves a cycle lane.
     
    ogden, Apr 14, 2009
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  13. Gavsta

    ogden Guest

    I pull that kind of shit countless times every time I ride to or from
    work. It feels completely natural.
     
    ogden, Apr 14, 2009
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    Colin Irvine Guest

    Or the pavement, but that's hardly the point is it.
     
    Colin Irvine, Apr 14, 2009
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  15. Gavsta

    Rudy Lacchin Guest

    Think of the children - for God's sake think of the children!
     
    Rudy Lacchin, Apr 14, 2009
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    ogden Guest

    And I would have got away with it if it hadn't been for those pesky
    nuns.
     
    ogden, Apr 14, 2009
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    Malc Guest

    "Oops, sorry officer I mistakenly got in the left lane. I realised I
    needed to go straight on just as I reached the front of the queue."

    Or some other suitably grovelling answer.
     
    Malc, Apr 14, 2009
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    dog Guest

    as opposed to: when filtering in fast-moving traffic, be careless and give it
    some beans.
     
    dog, Apr 14, 2009
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    zymurgy Guest

    If they saw you doing this every day though, the excuse might not hold
    up ..

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Apr 14, 2009
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    MikeH Guest

    He'd just have to remember which pocket his Alzheimers Anonymous card
    was in.
     
    MikeH, Apr 15, 2009
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