Flipper-helmets? think again...

Because if you go over 160ks in an open face, your helmet parachutes,
your chin strap chokes you into unconciousness and then you relax your
grip on the throttle, consequence being, you slow down anyway.

Or, you cop an elephant beetle at 200kmhs an hour in the cheek...if
you're lucky...

 

Dr. Rodney Cooter, Adelaide Cranio-Facial Unit. Late '80s I think.

Funnily enough, some yank pro-choice mob put it on their website
recently and one of the major TV new mobs here announced it like it was
something new...

 

Ummm, yeah, I'd reckon that was it...

 

If they're so smart, how come they get caught in fishing nets?...

 

Ive been wearing a flip-top helmet for years and never had a problem. I
recently bout one of them new SportsIntegral things... I wish I didn't...
The helmet seems quieter when you ride with the visor open. I wish I bought
the new flip-top.

Q

 

And get their dorsal fins cut off by Power Points

 

I was referring more to the removable chinbar type helmets.

--
i might just as well bend over now while the rich, dole bludgers and single
mothers take
turns fist fucking me up the arse!

Corks on a rant

 

I copped a bumblebee centre of the visor yesterday when riding with
conehead. Not your usual bee, in Tas we have the UK bumblebee. They weigh
about to ferkin kilos unloaded. Left a yellow gut smear all the way across
the visor, where it slid off. That would hurt at any speed.

Still, it's your choice. I wear a fullface on the road because of bugs. I
wear no helmet on the trials bike'


smack

people say I know **** nothing....

 

It's a point of weakness for no advantage.

 

Because there's usually no cars, buses, or trees in MotoGP?

 

I got killed by a full-face helmet.

But I got better.

 

I'm sure were quite capable going without it though Pat, but thanks for being considerate.

Mike.S

 

Hows this helmet... Its not ADR'ed in Oz, but I have seen a couple being
used around Perth.
The chin piece not only flips up, but it swivels all the way back over your
head, and sits to the rear of the helmet. Looks kind of like a fighter pilot
helmet

http://www.webbikeworld.com/r2/roof-helmet/roof-boxer/index.htm

Q...

 

As if your chin hitting the ground at a certain angle won't cause the same
sort of damage the full-face helmet will cause to your neck/spinal cord,
along with the added advantage of a messed up face.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 23 May 2004 05:29:48 GMT

Nope. Because the jaw will break and detach, whereas a chinstrap is a
lot stronger.

Zebee

 

That's exactly the point... obviously people's chins _don't_ hit the ground at
those angles in most accidents.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 23 May 2004 16:38:02 +1000

That they don't have the same kind of damage without chinstraps doesn't
mean that at all. Just means that a chinstrap is not a jaw.

That people's chins don't hit the ground at that angle in most accidents
is shown by the fact there are few brain stem separations at all.

Of course there aren't that many head-hits-ground smashes period, and of
those very few are faceplants, most are skull hits.

The only current study available in Oz is the one done in Melbourse a
few years ago, and they noted that they didn't have enough crashes to
determine if a fullface would protect you better. Of the couple of
hundred they looked at, bugger all involved head hits at all.

The MCC just got knocked back for funding for a study on bike injuries,
which would give everyone a lot more info about what is likely to happen.
The last such one was the Hurt one 30+ years ago, and the motorcycling
scene is very different now.

Zebee

 

And the face is a crumple zone for the brain cavity...

 

I don't know about "certain angles", but in both of my forced landings there
has been significant gouging of the chinbar and the visor.

I wouldn't like the odds of those impacts not ripping into my jaw, even if
they didn't rip it off.

 

Certain angles would probably mean impacting "chin first". Without hitting
some immovable fixed object, or perhaps the roadside kerbing, I don't think it
would be quite likely that the average person would contort themselves into
such a position during an off that would cause them to hit the road chin
first.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R