Flipper-helmets? think again...

? Why?

Isn't the road an immovable fixed object?

Did anyone suggest that? Does an impact only matter if it is the first
impact?

 

I never mentioned a first impact.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

In aus.motorcycles on Sun, 23 May 2004 21:50:35 +1000

For the impact to kill via the brainstem separation, I think it does
have to be. IT needs to be at the right angle so the chinstrap jerks
the head up, needs to be at a high enough force level, and needs to be
direct, not twisting.

Zebee

 

A firkin is a measure of volume, about 34 litres. And where did
it get the coconut anyway?

-----sharks

 

I have some lovely scratches on my helmet chinbar that would suggest otherwise.

Well ok, my elbow hit *first*, closely followed by my chinbar.

 

i T BONED A CAR 2 months ago on my blade , about 60 to 70 kMH and got thrown
over the car and knocked myself out . My arai corsair rx7 has a fist size
mark on the rear thats all .

I actually wondered when you fill in your TAC form why they dont use the
oportunity to find out what helmet was worn and the type of head injury ,
would certainly help gather info very easily .

The reason i say this is that was a 1100 dollar helmet . does it offer
better protection over a 600 dollar helmet.

 

And a chinbar has quite a bit more "leverage" too, I'd guess my chinbar
is 50-100% firther away from my "neck pivot" than mi chin...

big

 

Well, they're migratory, aren't they?

big

 

my BMW one hit the ground at a great rate, the visor ripped off in one piece
and i got a face full of dirt but there was no sign of the chinbar breaking
<<< this is a VERY GOOD THING
there was quite a bit of scratching on the front of the helmet and chinbar,
similar to 'ol mateys in the pic[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I'm onto my 3rd BMW fliptop, my last one hit the ground pretty
hard[1] and not quite face-first, pretty evenly damaging the "bucket"
above and the chinbar below my left eye (and it looks like it bounced
and hit it twice judging by the 2 distinctly different angled set of
scrape marks). The visor came off, but the hinge/latch assemblies both
seemed to do their jobs just fine[2].

big

[1] hard enough that I lost all memory of the ten minutes between "Oh
look, that echidna crossing the road is why all these cars slowed down"
to "hey look, I'm sitting on the back step of an ambulance" - pity the
Landcruiser behind me didn't slow down too eh?

[2] I don't remember the state the helmet was in immediately post crash
(I'd somehow apparently already taken it off with a dislocated sholder
before anybody else got to the scene), but it still opened, closed, and
locked as normal...

 

The echidna is sitting at home saying "thank god I was wearing
my protective jacket, if I'd gone out without it I'd be just
another dead possum by the side of the road".

-----sharks

 

Because the information gathered from people with severe head injuries
wouldn't be very reliable.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Your chinbar hit the road in such a way that it caused you a fatal injury?
I'm sorry to hear that.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

People have been saying I've been brain dead for years. ;-)

 

"Chin first" made me think that you meant 'chin first'.

 

Can I have a firkin of merkins, please squire?

 

I _was_ gonna ask what you plan on doing with 34 litres of pubic wigs,
but then I realised you might actually tell me... And I'm _sure_ I don't
want to know...

big

 

Sure... you can tumble down the road 5 times and on the 5th tumble your
chinbar could strike an object. you might have impacted with the road or other
objects half a dozen times before that.

Nev..
'03 ZX12R

 

Nearly pissed myself laughing, I did
- sanbar

 

SOLDIER #1: Where'd you get the coconuts?
ARTHUR: We found them.
SOLDIER #1: Found them? In Mercia? The coconut's tropical!
ARTHUR: What do you mean?
SOLDIER #1: Well, this is a temperate zone.
ARTHUR: The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or
the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers
to our
land?
SOLDIER #1: Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?
ARTHUR: Not at all. They could be carried.
SOLDIER #1: What? A swallow carrying a coconut?
ARTHUR: It could grip it by the husk!
SOLDIER #1: It's not a question of where he grips it! It's a simple
question of weight ratios! A five ounce bird could not carry a one
pound coconut.
ARTHUR: Well, it doesn't matter. Will you go and tell your master that
Arthur from the Court of Camelot is here?
SOLDIER #1: Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow
needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
ARTHUR: Please!
SOLDIER #1: Am I right?
ARTHUR: I'm not interested!
SOLDIER #2: It could be carried by an African swallow!
SOLDIER #1: Oh, yeah, an African swallow maybe, but not a European
swallow. That's my point.
SOLDIER #2: Oh, yeah, I agree with that.
ARTHUR: Will you ask your master if he wants to join my court at Camelot?!
SOLDIER #1: But then of course a-- African swallows are non-migratory.
SOLDIER #2: Oh, yeah.
SOLDIER #1: So, they couldn't bring a coconut back anyway.
[clop clop clop]
SOLDIER #2: Wait a minute! Supposing two swallows carried it together?
SOLDIER #1: No, they'd have to have it on a line.
SOLDIER #2: Well, simple! They'd just use a strand of creeper!
SOLDIER #1: What, held under the dorsal guiding feathers?
SOLDIER #2: Well, why not?


Cheers
Goaty

 

And what are they worth? Visors are breathtakingly expensive... last visor
for my $100 helmet cost... $50.

Gary

--
Wealth without Work
Pleasure without Conscience
Science without Humanity
Knowledge without Character
Politics without Principle
Commerce without Morality
Worship without Sacrifice

The Seven Deadly Sins of M.K. Gandhi