FOAK: Cairo

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Switters, Aug 26, 2005.

  1. Switters

    Switters Guest

    For hotels, I can stay near the Pyramids, which might be nice for one
    sunset, but then I'm 10miles from the city. Else I can stay in the city
    and do a day trip to the Pyramids, and benefit(?) from being in the city -
    if it's worth it.

    Any tips for spotting unscrupulous taxi drivers?

    I already know that you need to keep hold of your suitcase, as someone
    will either wander off with it, or carry it for you and charge you to hand
    it back.
     
    Switters, Aug 26, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    they'll be in cars with "Taxi" written on them.
     
    darsy, Aug 26, 2005
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    Cab Guest

    Having been there 7 times in the last 7 years for work (about 4 months
    in total), I've pretty much got it off pat now. My last visit was in
    March.

    When you get to the airport, they prefer hard cash for the visa (read:
    they don't like to accept Egyptian currency) such as dollars, UK pounds
    or euros.

    There's a Mövenpick right next door to the Pyramids, literally across
    the road. Otherwise, there are a few nice hotels (5 star) next to the
    Nile, in the centre of Cairo. What is your budget though?

    When visiting the pyramids, ignore every fscking bugger that approaches
    you. They're all thieving bastards. There are no 'official' tour guides
    (even if one bloke points out another), unless you go with a
    pre-arranged group. If you do fall foul of a dodgy tourist guide, give
    him EGP20 and not the "$100 per person that Merkins give him. Even if
    he does have 4 wives and 1000 children to feed". If he gets arsey, walk
    away.

    Basically, the general rule to follow, is decide on a price beforehand.
    Always.

    The Pyramids are normally paying to get in and see. However, every so
    often, after terrorist attacks, they waive the entrance fees. Same for
    the Egyptian museum in Cairo. Go to the museum, it's excellent (the
    mummy room is an extra payment, IIRC).

    If you hire a car, drive like they do. One hand on the steering wheel,
    one on the horn. Be aggressive, as you won't get anywhere otherwise. If
    you drive at night (or outside Cairo) be prepared for other vehicles to
    not use their lights at all or be on side-lights. They'll flash you or
    beep you, if you use your lights.
    For a journey from the airport to the hotel, it'll be around EGP50, as
    it's normally arranged through the hotels. If you can get the hotel to
    pick you up, all the better. They all have shuttle buses, IIRC.

    You'll see that half of the taxis are in a abominable state. One that I
    got in, had a hole in the passenger foot well that I could have put my
    feet through. Pay cheap. And I mean cheap. Short trips should cost you
    about EGP2 and medium trips around EGP5 to EGP10. Don't pay *anything*
    over EGP20 around Cairo and be prepared to shout and argue. If fact,
    check the price before you get in the taxi, that way you won't be
    shafted. If they tell you it's over EGP20, haggle or walk away. Expect
    them to chase after you. You really have to tell them what you want to
    pay, not what they want.

    Some taxi's have meters, but they either don't use these or they don't
    work.
    Tell all porters to **** off and tell them that you can manage nicely,
    thank you.

    When buying trinkets from people in the street, convert 1 for 1. i.e.
    if they ask for $5, you offer EGP5. In the Souk, be prepared for hard
    haggling.

    If you want to buy a shisha, don't buy it in the Souk but somewhere
    else. I picked up 2 normal ones and a diddy one for ¤15. If you come
    out of the Souk and walk up the road, uphill, there's a little shisha
    shop that won't charge you the same prices as the Souk.

    Even better, if you know any Egyptians, get them to do the haggling
    work for you.

    The only problem with Cairo, are the Egyptians. You'll have to have an
    aggressive attitude when dealing with everything touristy. For tourists
    that have a weak willed character, they get shafted all the time. You
    have to show people that you are the boss. If you don't like something,
    tell them.

    Is this post legible and does it make sense? I know so much about Cairo
    and Egypt that I could wibble on for ages... Drop me an email, if
    you've got other questions.
     
    Cab, Aug 26, 2005
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  4. Switters

    Ben Blaney Guest

    You're not really Maltese, you're Pakistani.
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 26, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    You know when you try and do a crap Pakistani accent, and it ends up
    sounding Welsh, and vice versa?

    Well, I've recently employed a guy who's parents are from Pakistan,
    but who was born and raised in Wales.

    His accent's near undescribable.
     
    darsy, Aug 26, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Get him to stand at a window and have a wank.
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 26, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    I think that's on the list of things that Muslims[1] get offended by.

    [1] unlike the majority of the /French/ Muslims I work with, this guy
    doesn't even drink alcohol!
     
    darsy, Aug 26, 2005
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    Cab Guest

    Heh, why?
     
    Cab, Aug 26, 2005
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    Ben Blaney Guest

    Fire him.
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 26, 2005
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  10. Switters

    Ben Blaney Guest

    <drums fingers>
     
    Ben Blaney, Aug 26, 2005
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    Cab Guest

    It's not because I object to paying. IIRC, it was only EGP25 to get in.

    But some people are under the misnomer that it's not a free site to get
    in and see.
     
    Cab, Aug 26, 2005
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  12. Switters

    Cab Guest

    Heh, that's very true. I've only know of one or two that stick to the
    rules in France.
     
    Cab, Aug 26, 2005
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    dwb Guest

    That's unusual for you - using the wrong word.

    I know I know, LITSTPN.
     
    dwb, Aug 26, 2005
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  14. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Very legible and made sense. I've done trips to Hurghada for diving, but
    it's all been on a liveaboard, so I have naff all knowledge of being in
    the tourist areas.
     
    Switters, Aug 26, 2005
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  15. Switters

    Switters Guest

    So basically it's free to wander around the outside etc, and there *might*
    be a fee to go inside depending on how many Europeans have been blown to
    bits recently?
     
    Switters, Aug 26, 2005
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    darsy Guest

    might make me look bad - I hired him 2 months ago, and he's getting on
    OK.
     
    darsy, Aug 26, 2005
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  17. Switters

    darsy Guest

    most of them here will have a glass of wine or a beer, though I was
    very surprised once, on the Eurostar with my then boss, who's Muslim -
    I asked for a glass of Champagne and a bottle of Chablis. I expected
    him to maybe go for a beer, but no : "Large gin and tonic, please".
     
    darsy, Aug 26, 2005
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  18. Switters

    darsy Guest

    it's just a spelling mistake - I'm not infallible.
     
    darsy, Aug 26, 2005
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  19. Switters

    darsy Guest

    "whoosh of the week".
     
    darsy, Aug 26, 2005
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  20. Switters

    ogden Guest

    ITYM "whooshing of the week"
     
    ogden, Aug 26, 2005
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