FOAK - Dishwashers

Errr....

Well actually my hot water is free, and ecologically sound.

Got one of these kind of jobbies on the roof.
http://www.ozbaylar.com/en/urunler_keban.asp

 

Ian field spoke:

I don't think I'll have that problem, the thing starts a cycle by pumping any
remaining water out. then stops.

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Surely there was some sort of cost and energy consumed to make the system,
transport it to your home and install it?

There was a feature on those products on Newsnight a few days ago. Most of
the panels used in UK are made in China and the production methods are not
at all environmentally friendly. Then there's the transport costs. They
would need to be working for many years to recoup the carbon. That was for
a UK set-up and I acknowledge at your latitude the return time might be
much shorter.

 

Paul Corfield spoke:

As Ben says, they actually use less water and power than using the sink and hot
water.

Setting aside the environmental impact of the manufacture - which is what people
generally do when talking about Prius and the like. What is a dish-washer? a tin
box with some plastics and some magic smoke.

Ours is 10 years old. How many bottles of detergent, sponges, scourers, plastic
dish-washing brushes, rusting dish-drainers will have been consumed doing it the
hard way?

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FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
Looks like Rab C Nesbit.

 

Davethedave spoke:

We have something similar on our roof. They were installed
by the previous owners. We gave up using it, as it was only
worthwhile in summer, when we didn't actually need that much
hot water. It has an electronic control box in the airing
cupboard, which displays the temp. of the water from it -
rarely over 30c even in summer, so you still have to press
the boost button to use an immersion heater to get to useable
temp.

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Rob_P
UKRM(at)indqualtec.co.uk
uppercase(d) BBIWYMC#1 BOG#11? MRO#31 IBCDBBB#1(kotl)
FJ1200, CCM130 Benelli Cabriolet (gone)
Looks like Rab C Nesbit.

 

And boilers grow on trees?

Quite right, but it's still being manufactured.

<disclaimer>I don't have a dishwasher</disclaimer>

 

Haynes dishwasher manual... mine has paid for itself at least twice...

 

Recently I found one in the bin room at the flats - just out of curiosity I
went and got the tools for a look inside.

It has various sumps & reservoirs that spilled out very smelly water when it
was turned over.

The front panel PCB was the only interesting bit, the waterproofed heater
relay is now slaved to the CBX550 front brake light switch - which hasn't
failed since despite several heavy rains, but I broke 3 of the 5 surface
mount triacs getting them off the board.

 

Quite superb. Bloody well done, that skip dver.

 

All well and good as long as the thing is stacked fuller than the tardis
before being put through a cycle.

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Inevitably. Plus of course the pollution created by the several cigarettes
smoked during the install.

It was I believe made locally-ish as in not imported. It's been on the roof
for about 7 years or so and the only maintenance it requires is a bit of a
rinse down once a year of the window bit and a stern kick every now and then
to dislodge internal limescale a bit. I think it's paid for itself financially
(landlords pocket) and environmentally, 7 years of hot water electricity is
kind of a large chunk.

Doesn't work too well on cloudy days though.

 

Racist !

Paul.

 

I usually am doing something else, whilst the mrs does the dishes. Takes
her 5 mins and 1 bowl of water.

 

We have something similar on our roof. They were installed
by the previous owners. We gave up using it, as it was only
worthwhile in summer, when we didn't actually need that much
hot water. It has an electronic control box in the airing
cupboard, which displays the temp. of the water from it -
rarely over 30c even in summer, so you still have to press
the boost button to use an immersion heater to get to useable
temp.
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That's because at the English type latitude you can't use a one tank
system but most of the installers just buy in the system for sunnier
climates because they don't know what they are doing.

Use a two tank system one for pre heat one for main heat. Switch the
solar input from one to the other depending on the differential between
the solar panel and the main or pre heat tank. Then only add heat to the
main tank if you need to.

That works!