FOAK: Dog training and 'shock' collars

Does the FOAK consider the use of electric shock collars in training
dogs unneccessarily cruel or an effective means of teaching head strong
or otherwise disobedient dogs?

We have an English Cocker Spanial whom we've trained by way of a slap on
the nose when she's in the middle of doing something she shouldn't and
by using treats when she's doing something right.

However, she still persists in 'chasing' people as they walk the other
side of our back garden wall, barking at them. I'm wondering if a shock
collar would be worth trying to see if she responds better.

Discuss.

 

Do whatever it takes to brainwash the fucker out of its natural urges,
remember they're there to entertain *you* not enjoy itself. If it doesn't
work, gut it and buy a new one until you get one that suits your capricious
dominance over all species.

 

Reminds me of those collars Arnie and his crew wore in The Running Man.

 

In

http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/5/shock_collars.htm

"The Association of Pet Behaviour Counsellors condemns the widespread
use of devices which deliver electric shocks to dogs for the purpose of
training or curing behaviour problems. Their potential for accidental
misuse is high and they could easily cause considerable and unnecessary
pain and distress to the animal.....

Written by Gwen Bailey, Member of the Association of Pet Behaviour
Counsellors APBC"


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(not forgetting the SK90PY)

 

Our settee used to do the same, until we got a bloke with a dog with a
f*ck off loud bark to walk past.
Ours barked, his replied and ours didn't do it again for weeks.
Another go a few weeks later and she was good as gold unless someone
actually tried the gate.

 

No, it's a fucked idea and a load of bollocks.

What you need to do is desensitise her to people walking along there,
teach her to lie down a few feet away, reward her (with praise) for
ignoring people.

When she acts up just firmly yell the down command, if she doesn't do it
go over and put her into a down position, as a reminder. It'll click
quite quickly.

TBH I've rarely ever found a need to slap dogs on the nose, and that's
with Boxers who are just as boystrous as spaniels, and probably more
headstrong. I've also never used treats, they make boxers drool like
motherfuckers, which isn't nice.

 

Well our settee is leather, but it doesn't bark.

 

Of course the answer is to make the *owner wear the collar* so when the dog
barks, the owner gets the shock.

 

Bugger. OF course it should be "setter".

The settee is the person being barked at, obviously.

 

A bit OTT, IMO.

I'd blame the trainer. Get a proper trainer in first, before
resorting to extreme tactics. Cockers are mad and stupid dogs at the
best of times and depending on the age of the dog it could turn out to
be a bit of a trial.

I'd resort to the Yellow Pages and at least talk to a professional if
it's winding you (or the passers-by) up that much.

 

Are there such things as Furniture Obedience classes?

p.s. you can only train them sofa.

 

Dunno about the use of the collars... but quite by chance we discovered
that our cocker spaniel is stunned into obedience by the sound of
saucepans crashing together. A single 'crash' of a pair of saucepan lids
and she immediately stops. So esnsitive in fact that somethimes the
mere act of removing a saucepan from the cupboard has the same effect if
she is within earshot!


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It's important to get that first fouton the ladder though.

 

"Are you calling our settee a poof?"

 

Lovely.

 

I recall Micheal Bentine (or was it Tommy Cooper?) doing a sketch with
a fold-out sofa-bed ...

<BANG>

 

And in Battle Royale.

 

I dunno - I said "Sit" a week ago and it hasn't moved yet.

 

Yeah - they need to unlearn all their bad Habitats.

 

So you're keeping a lid on the noise then?