FOAK: Domain stealing

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Switters, Apr 27, 2010.

  1. Switters

    Switters Guest

    A mate of mine went with one of those web design companies to set up his
    website. However, the company in question registered the domain name in
    their own name at their own address. This seems wrong to me, as he's the
    client and the "owner"[1] and it should have been done in his name.

    I guess they do this to protect themselves against clients getting a clue
    and transferring the domain away to someone else.

    I know there are rules against registrars doing this, but I couldn't find
    anything about hosting companies, who I'm guessing are the registrant in
    the eyes of nominet.


    [1] I realise that for uk domains, no-one gets to "own" the domain, just
    rent it out for a bit.
     
    Switters, Apr 27, 2010
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  2. Switters

    Jim Guest

    I guess the first thing to do is to assume good faith and contact them
    asking them to correct the details and pass on the Nominet certificate
    if they have it.

    It's extremely very unlikely that Nominet would find in their favour if
    it went to a dispute - you can quote their policy 3 (a) (v)

    http://www.nominet.org.uk/disputes/drs/?contentId=5239
     
    Jim, Apr 27, 2010
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  3. Switters

    Simon Guest

    I had a hell of a job when doing a favour for a mate - he had an
    estate agency which used a local IT bod to set up a (very shit)
    website. Same thing happened there, although in this case he pissed
    off and became uncontactable. I spent many hours on the phone to the
    registrar (tucows, in canada - who proved useless in getting this
    resolved). In the end my friend tracked him down and went and sat on
    his doorstep until he agreed to transfer the domain back. He still
    put in an invoice (£75) for his time doing this, which my mate
    unbelievably paid.
     
    Simon, Apr 27, 2010
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  4. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Thanks Jim, time to step things up.
    This one could go that way. They want £80 to release it. Cheeky fuckers.
     
    Switters, Apr 28, 2010
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  5. Switters

    Jim Guest

    Well, that's a nice proof of bad faith.

    I should also point out clause 4 (a) (iii) - I presume there was no
    formal contract signed?
     
    Jim, Apr 28, 2010
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  6. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Dunno, I'll have to ask. It'll expire before any DRS verdict came down,
    so might be cheaper to wait for 3 months and simply register it himself.
     
    Switters, Apr 28, 2010
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    Adrian Guest

    Don't forget that "expiring in 3mo" doesn't mean "can register it afresh
    in 3mo" - nearer 6, at least.

    Always assuming, of course, the current registrant doesn't renew it...
     
    Adrian, Apr 28, 2010
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  8. Switters

    Veggie Dave Guest

    I lost my old Veggie Dave domain within two weeks of forgetting to renew
    it. Some company then squatted on it (and wanted around a grand for it)
    for close to six years.

    --
    Veggie Dave
    http://www.iq18films.co.uk

    "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim
    that Jesus was not born of a virgin." Cardinal Bellarmine
     
    Veggie Dave, Apr 28, 2010
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  9. Switters

    Switters Guest

    Sure - I meant the 3 months after the expiry date when Nominet mess
    around, squatting^W suspending it in the hope that you'll cough up £80
    for a direct renewal.
    In a way, I hope they do. Not because it'll inconvenience my friend,
    but it will waste a tiny part of their time and a bit of money.
     
    Switters, Apr 28, 2010
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