FOAK MetaGoogle request - steering damper bush

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pete Fisher, Feb 9, 2011.

  1. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    The Morini has an adjustable hydraulic steering damper (not that it
    really needs one on the road) of what used to be called Kawasaki style.
    The damping is fine, but the bush that has a bolt through it to attach
    to the bottom yoke has a rather perished rubber bush with a loose steel
    sleeve. A bit like a small version of a twin shock top or bottom
    mounting, but only a 5mm bolt (I think). Can't find anything suitable by
    Googling. Any ideas on replacement. It seems silly to have to get a new
    complete damper (even if the correct type is still available), and in
    any case its functional but well used appearance add to the 'patina'.

    Very, very close to complete now. I might take a photo tomorrow.
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    Pete Fisher, Feb 9, 2011
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  2. Pete Fisher

    Paul-xxx Guest

    Could you make something up using proper rose joints?

    http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/ROD-ENDS/c184/index.html
     
    Paul-xxx, Feb 9, 2011
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  3. Pete Fisher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Purely curiosity here, but does the damper mount on a lug on the RHS
    of the bike and a rearward-facing bolt hole in the middle of the lower
    yoke?
     
    Pip Luscher, Feb 9, 2011
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  4. Pete Fisher

    Mark Olson Guest

    Presumably the metal part of the bushing is still OK?

    This any use?

    http://www.mcmaster.com/#rubber-grommet-bushings
     
    Mark Olson, Feb 9, 2011
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  5. Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 10, 2011
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  6. I reckon I might have something. Post the pic and let's see.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 10, 2011
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  7. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest


    A bracket is bolted to the frame on the right hand side just below the
    steering head. The damper unit has a right angled pivot mounting that
    bolts to that. A small bolt goes up through the offending bush in to a
    tapped hole in the underside of the bottom yoke. 350 Sports came with a
    non-adjustable one as standard and the 250 frame has the mounting holes
    in the same place. You have to use some ingenuity to fit the adjustable
    type, particularly on a 250, but fortunately the frame bracket has a
    series of holes, so you can get the stroke right (oo err).


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    | Aprilia Shiver Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" |
    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 |
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    Pete Fisher, Feb 10, 2011
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  8. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <1jwgpn4.1yzn3i41e5v9zhN%>,
    OK. Might also do a short video clip of the beast in all its snarling
    glory.

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    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 |
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    Pete Fisher, Feb 10, 2011
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  9. Pete Fisher

    SIRPip Guest

    Ditto, in my big box of bits (rubber section).

    If I don't, I know a motor factor who prolly has.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 10, 2011
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  10. Pete Fisher

    Krusty Guest

    Should be easy enough to make a new one with Plasti Dip or some other
    liquid rubber if you can't find anything suitable.
     
    Krusty, Feb 10, 2011
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  11. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    OK, photos, up to my usual standard.
    The damper:
    http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/Damper.jpg
    The bush:
    http://www.ps-fisher.demon.co.uk/pickchurs/damper_bush.jpg

    The rubber bit goes in an eye with an ID of 15mm and the steel sleeve
    has an OD of 11mm.

    Looking at it carefully I reckon the eye may screw in to the rod, so
    suitable a fancy rose joint might work. A bit OTT for a SO Morini
    though. I may need the cash to buy a complete damper for the Shiver
    before taking it to Pahnd Island.


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    | Aprilia Shiver Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" |
    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 |
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    Pete Fisher, Feb 10, 2011
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  12. Pete Fisher

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Looking at that, I've almost certainly got something. I'll have a look
    in my Begiiner's Big Box of Buggered Bouncy Bike Bits tonight.
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 10, 2011
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  13. Pete Fisher

    Krusty Guest

     
    Krusty, Feb 10, 2011
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  14. Pete Fisher

    SIRPip Guest

    SIRPip, Feb 10, 2011
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  15. Make your own with polyeurethane gloop.
    Here's a bigger diy version...
    http://forum.bmw5.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=47577

    However, I know there's a smaller tube available which has been used
    with some success for engine mounts - will continue to google.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 10, 2011
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  16. Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 10, 2011
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  17. Pete Fisher

    Pete Fisher Guest

    In communiqué <>, Grimly
    I'll keep that up my sleeve in case nothing else is possible. Speaking
    of engine mounts (as some of those links do), I just started it up
    again. I had forgotten how much more the vibes get through to the saddle
    when a tuned 350 is mounted in a 250 frame (only three bolts at the
    front instead of four). Also the comedy tacho which apart from the
    needle flapping furiously tries to escape its primitive rubber band
    mounting on each surge of revs, and that's with a brand new cable. The
    black electrical tape bodge is going to have to be employed again to
    restrain it.
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    | Pete Fisher at Home: |
    | Aprilia Shiver Yamaha WR250Z/Supermoto "Old Gimmer's Hillclimber" |
    | Gilera GFR * 2 Moto Morini 2C/375 |
    +-------------------------------------------------------------------+
     
    Pete Fisher, Feb 10, 2011
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  18. Pete Fisher

    Pip Luscher Guest

    Ah. I was wondering if it was the same damper arrangement as used on
    V11 Guzzis, but it seems not.
     
    Pip Luscher, Feb 10, 2011
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