FOAK Road Damage

Discussion in 'Classic Motorbikes' started by Rasman99, Jul 21, 2006.

  1. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    My mate is just back from a bimble on his immaculate R80RT 1983. He hit a
    pot hole and put a lovely flat in the front wheel.
    Anyone any experience of winning any compensation from the Council
    responsible for the roads or are you farting against thunder.
    The wheel alloy quality appears to be shit but nevertheless.
    He is pretty pissed off but I would reckon no chance of comp even with
    photos etc as there were no witnesses and he remained upright.
    I did agree to ask the question though!
    Rasman99, Jul 21, 2006
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  2. Rasman99

    Guest Guest

    I succeeded some years back when the car dropped into a hole and bent
    the suspension (now I drive a Landy!). Went back, took some pictures and
    wrote describing the incident. Wheels do turn up on eBay (see sig), IIRC
    about £100 for a good one, but as mine is fine I've not taken huge

    <barrack-room mode> I believe they have a duty to maintain the
    carriageway in a safe condition, which it demonstrably wasn't if it
    caused damage to the bike. I think also that they claim in turn from
    whichever utility/contractor made the hole or whatever </>

    For the sake of a letter etc., I'd go for it, and in any case they often
    allow the roads to become dangerous for bikes, so there's a moral
    crusading element too!


    Guest, Jul 21, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    I vaguely seem to remember that if the council didn't know about the
    pothole they're in the clear or something like this.

    If the pothole was marked using a bit of paint, it'll definitely be
    worth it. Nevertheless I'd contact the council and let them know about
    the pothole so they get a chance to fix it...
    Timo Geusch, Jul 22, 2006
  4. depends on the conditions. sometimes you can't spot 'em in the dark.

    Took out the driver's mirror on both my transit and the one coming the other
    way last night. Narrow main road, 40 limit (I was at or near 40), dipped
    lights 'cos of the oncoming traffic.

    2 bloody idiots walking 2 abreast on the wrong side of the road. One all in
    dark clothing, one had a white or light top but dark trousers, and on dipped
    lights with oncoming traffic, not visible until quite close. Snap decision
    that it was better to pull out and just miss them rather than try for a
    maximum braking stop (wasn't 100% that I'd stop without hitting them).
    Unfortunately, road only wide enough for 2 idiots, 2 trannies and 1 door
    mirror, so mirror-to-mirror at closing speed of about 80. exit 2 door

    Naturally, they legged it pronto into the campsite nearby and weren't to be

    Had they been facing the oncoming traffic as they should have been they
    could presumably have got further over, in theory at least. Had they been
    wearing lighter coloured clothing then they'd have been visible further off.

    but there is also the point about how difficult it can be to spot things in
    the dark, even with good headlights. And yes, another point about how I
    could have been going slower - However, given that it's a straight road I
    wasn't going silly-fast, either.

    Conversation with the locals discovered that a petition for a path alongside
    the road was turned down on some feeble grounds.
    Austin Shackles, Jul 22, 2006
  5. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest


    Well he is just back to biking at the age of 73 after a 25 year break. I
    will be frogmatched down to photograph said hole in road later on... if it
    is of interest or in any way a possible claim I will put the photo's on
    some site or other. Anyone got views on the quality of the alloy on Beemer
    wheels circa1983 the alloy appears to be pretty soft.
    If you have any spare Beemer wheelsof that aage and type there are beer
    tokens available.
    Time he gave up again and flogged it to me coz it's very tidy otherwise.

    Rasman99, Jul 22, 2006
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    Timo Geusch Guest

    If the impact is bad enough to have buckled the wheel, I'd say you'd
    probably wanted something slightly soft.
    fleabay or Motorworks.
    Timo Geusch, Jul 22, 2006
  7. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    Chers Timo got one in the fleabay watchlist will have a look round
    Motorworks. anything else from the Beemer range that fits.

    Rasman99, Jul 22, 2006
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    Adrian Guest

    Rasman99 () gurgled happily, sounding much like
    they were saying :
    Ah. Observation skills a bit rusty?
    Obviously hard enough to last for 23 years of use.
    Adrian, Jul 22, 2006
  9. Rasman99

    Timo Geusch Guest

    Any twin-shock R80/R100 cast wheel should fit and there should be
    plenty around.
    Timo Geusch, Jul 22, 2006
  10. Rasman99

    Rasman99 Guest

    Fair comment but bike is very low mileage and having had a look at the hole
    he hit which was 3.5 inches deep I will withdraw my last comment about the
    quality. More the quality of the rider!

    Rasman99, Jul 22, 2006
  11. Rasman99

    Adrian Guest

    SpamTrapSeeSig () gurgled happily, sounding
    much like they were saying :
    You can avoid it, though.

    That's not a pothole. That's roadworks.
    Adrian, Jul 22, 2006
  12. Adrian wrote

    "There I was, digging this hole..."
    steve auvache, Jul 22, 2006
  13. Rasman99

    Guest Guest


    When I went back to photograph it, it was obvious that it wasn't obvious
    (if you see what I mean). The council put a traffic cone in it before it
    was repaired, but there wasn't much sticking out!


    Guest, Jul 22, 2006
  14. only if you see it in time. I hit one in brum once while riding in traffic.
    thing in front straddled it and by the time I saw it it was too late to
    swerve round it. ISTR shutting my eyes and praying... bloody great crash,
    "heyho, we still seem to be rolling"...
    Austin Shackles, Jul 22, 2006
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    Steve Parry Guest

    Hagon offer cast wheel repairs

    Steve Parry, Jul 22, 2006
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    Tim Guest

    Certainly true in the wet. After once finding a very deep puddle when
    not expecting it I treat them with a bit more caution. Mind you just try
    telling that to some clueless tail-gating w*anker in a cage, ho hum :)
    Tim, Jul 23, 2006
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    #...hole in the ground...
    Pip Luscher, Jul 23, 2006
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    A.Clews Guest

    Thus spake Pip Luscher () unto the assembled multitudes:
    #...big and sorta round...
    A.Clews, Jul 24, 2006
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