FOAK: Throttle Spring Tension Question

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Biker Dude, Sep 13, 2009.

  1. Biker Dude

    Biker Dude Guest

    Subject bike is a Kwak 550, the throttle does require a lot of effort
    to over come
    the return spring. It soon makes my hand tired because of all the grip
    I need to generate.

    Is this normal?

    I am tempted to reduce the tension by weakening the spring. (I'll
    remove it from the bike and heat a few coils until they turn red with
    a propane torch.)

    Can I simply remove the spring entirely and just roll the throttle
    back and forth? Is there some safety reason why I shouldn't do that.

    TIA

    Biker Dude.
     
    Biker Dude, Sep 13, 2009
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  2. What sort of Kawasaki 550? IIRC, the early z550 had slide carbs,
    replaced on later bikes (z550F, GT550, GPz550, Zephyr 550) had CV carbs,
    which require less effort to open.

    If your model has CV carbs, then I'd suggest changing the throttle
    cable(s)[1] because it's probably gunged up. Same goes for slide carb
    bikes, actually.

    Whatever, removing the return spring is not a good idea. Yes, springs
    and twin throttle cables[2] are a belt-and-braces idea, but from
    experience, having done this myself, sometimes you go too far and you
    make precise throttle control more difficult. And should a closing cable
    ever break, you'll be in real trouble.

    [1] Can't recall which/whether bikes had a twin throttle cable push-pull
    set-up but it's not hard to tell: just look at how many cables come out
    of the twistgrip.

    [2] See above.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 13, 2009
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  3. Biker Dude

    1949 Whizzer Guest

    Somebody once said that lubricating the throttle cables might cause
    deterioration of the teflon inner sheathing. You might want to do some
    research into cable lubricants.
    I went to my local hardware store and bought a weaker spring to
    replace the garage door spring on a set of Mikuni round slide
    smoothbore carbs. Good hardware stores have drawers filled with
    specialty hardware.
    If the throttle pull cable broke at a critical moment, you could kill
    yourself.
     
    1949 Whizzer, Sep 13, 2009
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  4. Rather than try to modify the springs you've got on
    there, I'd try replacing them. McmasterCarr has just
    about any kind of spring you like although you're likely
    to pay as much for shipping as for the order. I've used
    off the shelf hardware store springs, though they tend
    to be less reliable if you have to do any bending or
    forming.

    As others have suggested, you should also make sure
    the cables are operating freely. You also ought to
    check the twistgrip and make sure you really have
    the stock springs in there to begin with.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 13, 2009
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  5. Biker Dude

    1949 Whizzer Guest

    Using the heel of your hand to operate the throttle just invites
    carpal tunnel syndrome pain.
     
    1949 Whizzer, Sep 13, 2009
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  6. Biker Dude

    Schiffner Guest

    As others have said DON'T!
    Nope get a cable lube tool and attempt to lube the cable(s) keep
    applying the lubricant (aerosol OR non-aerosol) until it starts to
    come out the other end of the cable. Then work the throttle a bit, let
    is set overnight. Then next morning repeat this procedure (don't be
    like me and set your coffee were it might get hit with overspary) work
    the throttle a bit more.

    Here is where it becomes a judgement call. IF the throttle
    becomes easy to use, GREAT! You've solved the problem, now go out and
    buy a second set of throttle cable(s) because if it was rust you are
    likely to have one or both cable(s) break. DAHIKIJK Also now would be
    a darn good time to lubricate any and all other cables per the owners
    manual / shop manual. I've been where you are at and learned it the
    hard way.

    Good luck
     
    Schiffner, Sep 13, 2009
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  7. Bollocks. Just replace the cables.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 13, 2009
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  8. Biker Dude

    Schiffner Guest

    Dude you're talking to Krusty...only reason he knows anything is the
    internet and even then he gets it wrong more often than not.
     
    Schiffner, Sep 14, 2009
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  9. Biker Dude

    Biker Dude Guest

    Thanks for the advice, I will replace the cables and then order up a
    cramp buster.

    If that doesn't do it then and only then will I look for a weaker
    spring.

    Asta la vista, baby!

    Biker Dude
     
    Biker Dude, Sep 14, 2009
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  10. Biker Dude

    Schiffner Guest

    That'll work, take your time and pay attention to where things are
    routed.
     
    Schiffner, Sep 14, 2009
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