we have an ADSL router that I set up using my own laptop. I then plugged in a D-link access point which just worked. I can connect my work lappy using the Oddyssey client. I just selected the "any public" one and hit scan and it found it. why not shove a wire from the router (should have 4 ports) into the network port on your laptop? (like we did in montreal). i know you have to sit on the end of a wire but that's the only disadvantage. -- Adie (replace spam with nickname to reply) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280031578936 UKRM FAQ: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ Triumph ZX9R / GSF1200 bandit (for sale) / CG125 keeper of the FAQ for my sins MRO#11 BOTAFOF#7 BOTAFOT#130 DIAABTCOD#17 MIB#24 YTC#16 BOB#15 ex-UKRMMA#22 BOMB#11
Reading the OP more carefully it looks as if they have supplied Ace with a really pikey ethernet ADSL modem with only one port. Not even certain that it has a firmware browser based setup GUI. Anyone familiar with the ZyXEL Prestige 600? -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Moto Guzzi Mille GT/Squire RS3 Gilera Nordwest | | Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
I've got one here. Yes, it has a firmware browser based setup GUI. Mine has worked without a hitch for several years.
Correct. Plus, as in the OP, I want to be able to use two machines in different rooms, as well as being able to walk through to plug into the printer/scanner without losing the connection. I know that would be possible with sufficiently long network cable, but would be a right PITA. Wassat then? Would that be like a web page brought up from the modem itself? In which case yes, I think so, as it's currently bringing up a failure message and allowing a config screen to be accessed, although I don't have (or need) the password for it. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Sounds like it. As it is a modem only, with no router capability, perhaps they don't bother with a password. Presumably once your ADSL is live and you configure the ADSL login and password you will get a connection. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Moto Guzzi Mille GT/Squire RS3 Gilera Nordwest | | Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
No login or password necessary. As our tech support guys said, just plug it in and it works. And that's the way everything should be. I'll try and source a wireless router next week and see if that will be as simple. Or not. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Wireless *Access Point*. You will get problems if you try using a wireless *router* (The router contains an access point but it also contains lots more gubbins that a) you don't need and b) will confuse both you and the cat. And the routing of your packets to the Internet/work). Phil
Thanks for the clarification. I think I might just go with the one that's shown on the box, as it doesn't seem, from what's been said here, that there will be much difference, and it's only 40 quid in CH. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Other posters have put forward some good advice, especially the 'incremental approach' to getting things working. In addition, I'd suggest disabling the 'management over WAN' (using the wireless facility to get into the box's settings) as that means that anyone who can see your wireless network might be able to change the settings and lock you out. It means you'll have to manage the box over the ethernet; not really a problem as you shouldn't need to access it once all is up and running. Also, I'd put some encryption on it; WEP is the lowest and it can be cracked, but it seems to be widely compatible. Use the correct key-string length for maximum security. If you want to generate unique long random keystrings, try https://www.grc.com/passwords.htm Copy the string to a Notepad file on a USB memory dongle for easy portability and 'air gapping' when not is use for other things. WPA-PSK with TKIP is an enhanced version and is probably uncrackable by local scrotes; there is an unseen-by-you keychange at regular intervals. WPA-RSA is probably uncrackable by anyone in any sensible timeframe, but may not be available on all your machines. Disable the broadcast of your wireless ID, and use MAC address filtering. None of these are totally secure in themselves, but it all adds up to a much harder nut to crack. HTH
<Snip> Thanks for this, but really, as I implied above, it's utterly wasted on me. The modem I've got is now working quite happily, with absolutely zero intervention or configuration from me - I just plug it in and it works. Indeed, I don't have any means to do so, as they've supplied neither the password for it nor any sort of manual. As I say, it's all preconfigured and works quite happily. As for security on the wireless link, our nearest neighbour is 100m away and about 10m below our house level, and the next closest is as far away again, so I don't think people hacking into it is very likely. So I'm planning to just get a simple WAP, probably the same make as the modem, plug it in and see what happens. Any guesses as to how little config I'll be able to get away with? -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
I am sure you already thought of this but you can get a sneak preview of what will be involved here: http://www.zyxel.com/DownloadLib_Test/G-2000_Plus_v2/quick_start_guide/G-2000 Plus v2_1.pdf Ignoring the security side of things, which as you say don't seem to be too big an issue in your case, it looks pretty straightforward. If you choose Ethernet encapsulation and standard service it may work immediately. If you want to get paranoid about the possibility of someone lurking nearby in a vehicle, some basic measures like changing the SSID and activating at least WEP encryption aren't too difficult to do. -- +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pete Fisher at Home: | | Voxan Roadster Moto Guzzi Mille GT/Squire RS3 Gilera Nordwest | | Gilera GFR Moto Morini 2C/375 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+
You pay your money and you make the choices. I'd urge you to reconsider.....have a look at these; I doubt there's anything unique here: Posted very recently by "Travec the Dacian" on uk.telecom.broadband: "Sorry if this is a little OT. I live in the remote, quiet countryside. There are only two, maybe three neighbours within range of my wireless router. Because of that I never thought, before tonight, that I would have to encrypt my wifi network. But tonight I found it was being used by someone outwith my household. There were no cars around anywhere so I assume it was a neighbour or their kids or something. Firstly I noticed a significant drop in bandwidth. Really slow pages loading. Then I noticed the lights on my router were flashing madly when I wasn't downloading anything, and no other machine in my house was switched on. This went on for a long time. I checked my daily usage online with my ISP and found I had used almost 300 Megs since this morning, although all I have done today was check some emails. The only thing making me doubt my sanity is that my neighbours have their own broadband, so why would they use mine? Okay, lesson learned either way. I have now put a 128-bit encryption key on my network. As soon as I did that, all the router light activity ceased. But now I want to catch the cheeky buggers. I downloaded a program called Netstumbler to my laptop, but by the time I got it working it only showed my own, newly-encrypted network. Any ideas as to how I can find out for sure which neighbouring household has been accessing my wireless broadband? I want to be discrete. No diplomatic incidents. TIA Travec ----- In the same thread, Burton Bradstock replied to another poster as follows, the implications of which you might find interesting: ----- It may be the legal position that a person who downloads illegal material is responsible for that act, but the first port of call for the authorities looking for the perpertrator is the user of the IP address that downloaded it. These days, you don't get a polite knock on the door from your local well-known law enforcer; the door comes off its hinges with brutal force at about 4 am, and your house is filled with shouting robots dressed in psychologically-disturbing agressive-looking clothing and totally impervious to anything you might say, and completely indifferent to you and any partner being stark naked. Reaching for some clothing can be a richly-rewarding experience. You will be arrested and your all computer equipment will be confiscated for examination. Fingerprints, DNA, and photograph are all taken, and kept forever and run through the system to check for previous crimes. In about a year, you'll get you computer back, probably broken; you'll need to go to the US embassy in London to get a visa (£60 plus at least a day's inconvenience) if you want to travel to the US; and your neighbours at best will be avoiding you. Somewhere along the line you will be thrown a £50 voucher for your inconvenience - and your life will have changed forever. It just might be a whole set of problems for you. I'd put some encryption on, if I were you.
No, it's usable from either mine or Jude's machine. Indeed, that's the plan. Although I might see if our own tech-support people can do this for me. As a last resort, I suppose. Well, it might seem to contradict what you said up there ^ about speaking to someone with a clue... -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Well that's told me the fixed IP address and password to access the setup system for the current device. But I'm not going to start messing with it if I don't need to. It seems to be using something called PPPoE encapsulation, so I guess I'd simply need to setup the WAP device to use the same. Or something. We have a private drive. Nearest road is 200m away and 25m lower than the house, so I think it's unlikely. Still more than I want to know, TYVM. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Someone called VTX (Swiss outfit), but the service name is specific to our company, IYSWIM. Indeed, as I though. Although oddly both boxes use the same IP address for setup access, so how it'll know which one to configure I'll have to see. Aye, wot I was finking. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
S'allright, the cats'd 'ave 'im. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (brucedotrogers a.t rochedotcom) \`\ | /`/ GSX-R1000K3 (slightly broken, currently missing) `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
