[QUOTE="Nev.."] Givi design has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with convenience. The shape of the luggage or rack has little to do with the injury which will be sustained, it's all to do with the location, angle and severity of impact.. and no two accidents are ever the same. I can think of two grand prix racers who sustained crippling back injuries with no ventura rack, so compared to the one example you give that makes a ventura rack much safer than having no rack. Nev.. '03 ZX12R[/QUOTE] Watch out for those Yamaha footpegs... Postman Pat