For those on a low cholestrol diet....

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Donnie, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. Donnie

    Hankjam Guest

    Glad to hear coz the constipation is doing my arse in with 40 mg....

    Hj
     
    Hankjam, Aug 31, 2009
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  2. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    Your bod will get used to the higher dose and the constipation will
    disappear.


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    Beav, Sep 1, 2009
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  3. None. But like my GP said "lets just keep it under control".. to which
    my response was "sure - just not with statins".

    Despite being t2 sugar-mong my lipids/cholesterols/blood-pressure are
    all dead within the normal range for someone of my height/weight/age.

    And in fact the blood pressure is pretty much what it was 30 years
    ago..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Sep 1, 2009
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  4. Take some metformin - that'll sort out the constipation..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Sep 1, 2009
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  5. Yup. The only symptom of diabetes that I actually seem to get is the
    poor BG control. Everything else seems to work as normal.

    Whereas my mother (also t2) and her brother (ditto) seem to have the
    whole spectrum.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Sep 1, 2009
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  6. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    Hehehe :) Paaarrrpppp.

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    Beav, Sep 1, 2009
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  7. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    Well I'm either lucky or careful (I am careful actually, but that's no
    guarantee) as I have pretty good control if I don't stray too far from the
    path of temptation, but the problem with monginess is that the known
    complications are pretty asymptomatic until they reach "Oh ****" levels, so
    staying on top of it is probably a good idea. Any time your BG isn't where
    you reckon it should be, you should do something about it right
    away.(Another tab, a brisk walk, a sugar butty, etc)

    I have a pal (a fucking BIG fat bastard) and I'd been telling him for years
    if he didn't do "something", he'd be in the same boat as me and then he's
    HAVE to do something. He did **** all and eventually joined the "Club of
    Mongs" 5 years ago. He still did nothing and continues to do nothing and
    he's already seeing the results. I told him I'm not going to his funeral
    unless he makes arrangements for a HIAB to be there:) The chances of him
    making another 5 years are none to **** all too and he knows it. Denial....
    not good.

    I've had about 19 years of being in the 5% (A1c) club and a few years of
    creeping into the mid 6% region. None of those are bad at all and so far it
    seems to have worked, but there's NO rest for the wicked, so I keep on doing
    what I've always done. Test and correct.

    No complications and only minor changes in my eyes. The changes aren't even
    regarded as retinopathy, just "changes". I've seen the latest photo's of my
    eyes and I'm fucked if I can see anything out of the ordinary when compared
    to photo's taken 20 years or more ago, so I'm not arsed.

    The only time I've ever had a problem related to monginess was when I
    dehydrated on the shithouse and that wasn't the monginess itself, it was a
    viral infection but being a mong meant I couldn't cope with it.

    Keep vigilante and work on your BG control. Please.

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  8. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    It's a **** when you find out your alergic to Aspirin. 11 days in dock with
    what feels like an artic parked on your chest.


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    Beav, Sep 1, 2009
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  9. Yup. When I said "poor control" what I actually meant was "defective
    automatic BG control".

    My last HBA1C was 5.5. The one before was 5.9.
    One of my uncles was a late developing T1. He lost both legs, most of
    his eyesight and a couple of fingers. He *still* didn't take care of
    his BG.

    His funeral was a couple of months later.
    About a year for me. Down from my post-dx HBA readings of 7-8.
    Indeed. One strange thing - metformin alone does virtually nothing for
    me. Metformin and pioglitazone combo works perfectly. Exercise doesn't
    seem to make much difference (my BG is *higher* after taking the dogs
    for a good long walk) but eating sensibly does (so breakfast of muesli
    with added dried fruit keeps the BG stable until well past lunchtime)

    In fact - about the only thing that seems to bring my BG down
    significantly (and quickly) is a glass of red wine. And I can't miss a
    meal otherwise my BG heads for 9+ pretty quickly.
    No changes found in my eyes. Which reminds me - must book my next
    photo.
    I do. The GP rhetorically asked me at my last consult whether I really
    was T2..

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Sep 1, 2009
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  10. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    Ahhh right. Well thank **** that particular crossed wire wan't the negative
    one.
    Only bastard excellent, that's all.
    My cousin became a mong about 7 years after me. He had a guide dog wthin 5
    years and was dead before the end of his 7th. He wa only in his mid 40's
    when he chucked the towel in. He had a fair amount to live for too as his
    mother (who he really didn't like much) had inherited half a mill from her
    hubby and then won the lottery to the tune of another 5 mill.
    I don't know what my post dx A1c was (they didn't do them back then) but my
    BG for the two weeks prior to being hospitalised were around the
    65-70mmol/l.
    Something I've always had issues with. If I really need to get a BG reading
    down there's only one thing works and that's sleep. If I do ANY exercise,
    it'll just keep climbing. I've injected 'til I'm blue in the face and
    although that will stop it rising, it's VERY slow at dropping it. If I
    inject, have a biscuit (one digestive) and half an hours kip, it'll either
    be well on its way to normal, or I'll be hypo.
    Fucking hell. THE worst food imaginable for me. I can't go near fruit unless
    I'm hypo and muesli, well that's a guaranteed "all day high".
    Red wine's good for sugar mongs apparently. I don't drink, so I've no idea.
    I get two sets done each year. It keeps the fuckers on their toes:)
    I was asked about 66 years ago at the eye session "Is this your baseline
    photo"? When I asked what he was waffling on about, he said that he needed a
    picture very early on to compare later ones with. I told him to check back
    15 or so years and it'd be there. He was qite surprised because at that
    time, my eyes showed no sign of me being a diabetic and the first changes
    usually occur wthin the first 5 or 6 years.

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    Beav, Sep 1, 2009
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  11. After that uncle died my aunt married another T1 that she'd met through
    the support group. He died of diabetic complications too..
    My two pre-dx readings were 18 and 22.. but I had been drinking
    lucozade because I was tired and thirsty all the time.
    Ah-ha! A perfect excuse for a swift kip.
    It raises mine for the wakeup value of about 6.8 to about 7.8 after an
    hour. It then drops down to 6 after another hour. Then down to about 5
    until about 1pm.
    One glass is good. One bottle less so..
    Oh well - another 2-3 years to go then.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Sep 2, 2009
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  12. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    I get an automatic rise when I get up n the mornngs. It can double within an
    hourwithout effort, but I have a combat plan. A oodly dollop of slow
    insulin, and mediu dollop of very fast insulin and nothing to eat until 5 at
    night :)
    Cut it with a bottle of white :)
    If your A1c's are kept like they are, I wouldn't be giving it much thought
    to be honest. I know we've not got much in our arsenal, but keeping BG's
    near normal is the best weapon we have.

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    Beav, Sep 2, 2009
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  13. Donnie

    CT Guest

    You too, huh?
     
    CT, Sep 2, 2009
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  14. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    It's called the "Dawn Phenomenon" abd it affects a lot of sugar mongs. All
    the usual hormones are dumped to get you to wake up (glucose, adrenaline
    etc) but if you've not got an automagic response, you have to do something
    about it yourself.

    It's not "as" associated with T2 as it is with T1, but it happens to some no
    matter what their type is.


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    Beav, Sep 2, 2009
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  15. I don't think that was *entirely* what CT was on about..
    I used to have a very big one (fnarr). Right up until I changed jobs
    and my stress level went from 'coronary in 5 years' to 'don't worry, be
    happy'..

    It now goes up by 1-2 points instead of 4-5. Amazing what huge amounts
    of cortisol will do.

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Sep 3, 2009
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  16. Donnie

    CT Guest

    Not even close.
     
    CT, Sep 3, 2009
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  17. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    Neither do I at a 2nd reading :)
    It's murderous that stuff. On the two occasions I've been above 6%, (A1c) I
    was taking cortisone by the shedload.


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  18. Donnie

    Beav Guest

    Well I have to admit :)


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    Beav, Sep 3, 2009
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  19. Donnie

    Simes Guest

    Heh - basic schoolboy error.
     
    Simes, Sep 7, 2009
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  20. Donnie

    Hog Guest

    I don't make mistakes.

    Well, not often.
     
    Hog, Sep 7, 2009
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