forget hybrids

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Zebee Johnstone, Feb 4, 2010.

  1. Zebee Johnstone, Feb 4, 2010
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  2. Zebee Johnstone

    atec 77 Guest

    Agreed it looks fascinating
    won't happen though as being fuelled by anything but a monopoly is
    blocked at conception
    big oil is greedy
     
    atec 77, Feb 4, 2010
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  3. Zebee Johnstone

    F Murtz Guest

    Still needs fuel, could be oil based,but probably less of it.
     
    F Murtz, Feb 4, 2010
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  4. Zebee Johnstone

    atec 77 Guest

    but it could be pulverised wood or home made alchohol or some other such
    renewable thing which cant be taxed
     
    atec 77, Feb 4, 2010
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  5. I used to operate a steam boiler for various steam operated machines and it
    took about three quarters of an hour to get up enough steam to start the
    smallest one
     
    George W Frost, Feb 4, 2010
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  6. Zebee Johnstone

    Toby Guest

    atec 77 blathered on with:
    If you're suggesting taxation on fuel might be disappeared, watch the
    arguments about deadly nasty steam explosions appear any time soon.
    Anything to stop reduction in the tax take.

    But it appears to me that they've removed concept "boiler" from the
    equation, which is an absolutely top notch idea indeed - mainly because
    of the results of boiler explosions as seen down through the years -
    not a good look. Besides, which drivers out there could be boiler
    attendant ticketed? The ones who prang every other week?

    IMHO, I believe we have a new motive force available for out vehicles
    that doesn't need a battery and can actually run an air-conditioner at
    the farking lights!!

    Can't see a hell of a lot Not to recommend the thing, at all.
    Even the start-up and condenser problems of conventional steam systems
    (see Saab, Rover et al) appear to have been booted out the door. The
    thing should just fire up and run pretty well as soon as it gets fuel -
    albeit with a little less power while the thermal tricks are getting
    their act into gear, so to speak.
    But de-ionized water?
    Better distilled stuff. Can't trust the water 'sellers' at the best of
    times:)
     
    Toby, Feb 4, 2010
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  7. Zebee Johnstone

    atec 77 Guest

    Testing the model steamer I built last year it takes about 3 minutes to
    be in go condidtion so I expect the car could be the same
    chip oil is hard to get though due to all the bio fuel people
     
    atec 77, Feb 4, 2010
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  8. Zebee Johnstone

    F Murtz Guest

    Did you watch the two videos? this engine does not heat a great boiler
    full of water like the old ones it seems to heat water in a closed
    circuit like a sealed unit refrig unit, it has small pistons,it probably
    heats almost instantaneously
    Unless the whole thing is a con.
     
    F Murtz, Feb 4, 2010
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  9. Zebee Johnstone

    atec 77 Guest

    Yes I watched it , the slowst part is getting fireup which wont take
    long , certainly not more than minutes max as experience with the model
    suggests being of a closed loop type
     
    atec 77, Feb 4, 2010
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  10. Zebee Johnstone

    JL Guest

    200lbs engine weight is a little hefty - might want to build a smaller
    lighter model for a bike. With that sort of hp to torque ratio you'd
    be looking at gearing it really high and having very few gears
    (probably just a high/low range).

    Would be pretty cool to have one ;-)

    JL
     
    JL, Feb 5, 2010
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  11. 200lbs engine weight is a little hefty - might want to build a smaller
    lighter model for a bike. With that sort of hp to torque ratio you'd
    be looking at gearing it really high and having very few gears
    (probably just a high/low range).

    Would be pretty cool to have one ;-)

    JL

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    No gearing at all in any steam engine I operated with
    and I think that in
    the video, he states there are no gears
     
    George W Frost, Feb 5, 2010
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  12. Check www.jaylenosgarage.com for loads of videos on Jays steam vehicles. Short
    answer is they are a huge pain in the arse to get running for a quick drive to
    the shop.

    Fraser
     
    Fraser Johnston, Feb 5, 2010
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  13. Zebee Johnstone

    F Murtz Guest

    This thing does not seem to be like existing steam engines so it can not
    be compared with every bodies notions of known engines.
     
    F Murtz, Feb 5, 2010
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  14. Zebee Johnstone

    hippo Guest

    True. It looks/reads more like a heat exchanger with pistons.
     
    hippo, Feb 6, 2010
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