Forty hours? Good grief.

Dan White coughed up:

Heh, my 17 y/o daughter has had 6 lessons.

She drove me down the private lane to the stud farm where she works
last weekend.

"Entertaining" and "breathtaking" are just 2 words which immediately
come to mind.


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I passed both car and bike tests first time.

Phil

 

I'm disagreeing with you here - I'm reasonably bright (despite how I
may come across at times) and I'm actually pretty bad at learning by
rote. I am outstanding at learning by *doing* - which is an entirely
different thing.

Present me with a page of text to be memorised and my eyes glaze
over[1], present me with a discussion or a practical exercise and
I succeed more often than not[2].

Intelligence (in my everso humble opinion) is problem-solving ability
not necessarily the ability to memorise facts and figures - that's
memory.

Phil.

[1] Although I'll be able to remember it 10 years later - my short-term
memory is OK, my medium-term memory is crap and my long-term memory is
very very good.
[2] This is, of course, a sample of one. Your deviation may vary.

 

He won't be confused, I'll have mis-understood. I guess he was just
flying regularly accompanied before he was 16 then. Given when his
birthday is he could have solo'd before leaving school as well.

Shame he wants to become a glorified bus driver.

 

Na, they were private lessons. I must have mis-understood because
flying is something I know nowt about.

 

That's what I did. My insurance on the ST is 500 quid fully comp. To
put Anya on (28, full licence for a year) would have cost 1400 quid.

So we bought her a car and insured it (her policy, me named driver)
for less than the difference.

 

" "

 

They've evidently done a cost-benefit analysis including removal of one
fuglipla from the world.

 

Doesn't everyone?

 

Insewrance in NI for a 17 y/o for anything over group one is £5000 p/a
so no it does not look bad.

 

Phil Launchbury wrote

<fx: rummages through modest library for book on Training Psychology>

It says here that different folks have different strokes.

Most learn best by being told/shown and then a bit of guided practice.
Not all mind but most.

The learning by rote bit is about the intellectual equivalent of muscle
memory of the type Beckham has and is really about reinforcement of the
basic skills not about the learning in the first place.

 

Well quite. Anyone with ability anyway.

Phil

 

Phil Launchbury wrote

I couldn't agree more.

 

This group is in danger of a smug fusion reaction

 

While I understand your comments in the context of learning to drive a
car or ride a bike I do struggle with the sports analogy.

I think I'm a pretty intelligent chap. Somehow I managed to learn to
ride a bike, I've not learnt to drive a car but I think I could do it. I
remain unconvinced that I am a "good" bike rider but that's probably
more to do with my self belief and confidence than ability.

I cannot for the life of me show or develop any sort of competence for
sports involving any real level of hand / eye / brain co-ordination.
Even taking the very few sports that I actually wanted to be good at
(basketball for one) I was still crap despite doing training. I am even
worse at those sports I dislike like cricket, football and rugby - there
was never any semblance of being able to throw or catch a cricket ball
and as for kicking a ball then not a chance.

I suspect I am a living example of ogden's two different parts of the
brain explanation.

 

Nice one.

 

Oh well that's another comedy duo used up in the great pantheon of ukrm
nicknames.

To be entirely fair it was (thank god) a once in a lifetime experience.
You ought to be thankful I haven't sued you for subjecting me to extreme
emotional distress. I'm sure I'd win any such action.

 

Kids, wonderful aren't they...

 

<waves>

Dozy twat of an instructor turning up 30 mins late for my pre-test
lesson didn't help, then having failed the first one lack of
confidence, or whatever, helped me to fail two more.

The bike test, what I'd done about three years earlier, was a doddle,
of course.

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Interesting. 7100 quid for a PPL in the UK,
vs about UKP 3100 (http://www.ipfa.ca/private_cost.html)
for an equivalent PPL in Canada, which can then be transferred
to the UK. Add in a generous UKP 1500 for flight and lodging
and you're still better off. Heck, a commercial pilot license
is only UKP 8200 and change.

I'm beginning to see why various local flight training school
are targetting Europeans a little more.

Still can't afford it at the moment though...