Front Fork Seal Driver ?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Iowa883, Jan 3, 2005.

  1. Iowa883

    Iowa883 Guest

    Just wondering why the fork seal drivers that you purchase today are split
    into two pieces ? What benefit is this over the solid one piece tube type ?
    Thanks,
    Iowa883
     
    Iowa883, Jan 3, 2005
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  2. Iowa883

    Phil Boutros Guest

    It allows you to change fork seals without removing the whole
    fork from the bike.


    Phil
     
    Phil Boutros, Jan 3, 2005
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  3. Iowa883

    bowman Guest

    Unless I'm missing something, it would be a major pain in the ass compared
    with loosening the two pinch bolts. I even take the forks out to change the
    oil on the Sportster.
     
    bowman, Jan 3, 2005
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  4. I'd LOVE to see him put a new seal on mine without pulling
    the fork legs. Or any motorcycle for that matter.


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    Keith Schiffner, Jan 3, 2005
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  5. To allow them to expand to cope with different size seals?
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 3, 2005
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  6. Nonsense
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 3, 2005
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  7. Iowa883

    James Clark Guest

    Leave the tubes in the trees and step away from the bike.

    If you remove the legs with the tubes still in the trees, you don't have to deal with any clutter
    around the trees. Less time and risk of damage for the professional wrench.
     
    James Clark, Jan 3, 2005
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  8. Iowa883

    Phil Boutros Guest

    Well, the OP's email address seemed to point to him having a
    Harley-Davidson. I inadvertently thought I was in the H-D newsgroup.

    It can be done on the H-Ds (without pulling the whole fork off
    the bike. Obviously, the fork legs have to be pulled from the tubes).
    Trust me.


    Phil
     
    Phil Boutros, Jan 3, 2005
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  9. Iowa883

    Phil Boutros Guest

    Why would I make it up?

    Phil
     
    Phil Boutros, Jan 3, 2005
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  10. Iowa883

    Phil Boutros Guest

    Er...No. The radius of the installer has to match the fork.
    That's why you can get split ones for 39mm, 41mm, etc, etc...


    Phil
     
    Phil Boutros, Jan 3, 2005
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  11. Strange, because my local dealer has a split one, with a sort of collar
    round it, which tackles just about every diameter fork on the planet.
    It's been used on my Ducati and my (then) Z200, and I doubt you could
    get much more disparity between the two fork sizes there.

    You wind the collar down on the split, as it were, for narrower
    diameter, and wind it back for wider.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 3, 2005
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  12. All right, I'll make it simpler. You could, I suppose, dig out the old
    fork seal with the forks still in situ (hell of a risk of damaging the
    fork, but still).

    Please explain, though, how you will install the new seal *without*
    dropping the fork leg from the yokes.

    Upside-down forks might be a different matter. I'll admit I had RWU in
    my mind.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 3, 2005
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  13. Iowa883

    Carl McNamee Guest

    I'm with Phil on this one. I've seen and done fork seal replacement on
    several bikes without removing the forks from the triple clamps. The forks
    on many bikes with right side up forks can be disassembled with the forks on
    the bike. The biggest problem is dealing with the fork oil if there is not
    a drain plug on the forks.

    Carl

    P.Tosh
     
    Carl McNamee, Jan 4, 2005
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  14. <sniff, sniff>
    Doesn't smell like a fed
    <sniff>
    Nor does he smell like a missionary...

    Okay I'll take your word for Harley Davidson...so do you put
    it up on the center stand to do this? ;^) Even on a lift you
    have to remove the legs on a GL1000 like mine.


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    Keith Schiffner, Jan 4, 2005
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  15. Iowa883

    Iowa883 Guest

    So, in otherwords. My solid driver will work ? I will be using it on a yz85
    with upside down forks.
    And I just can't figure out how you would benefit from a split one when you
    have to disassemble the fork to get the old seal removed and the new one on
    anyhow.
    Iowa883

    BTW I do own a Sporty plus many other bikes :) Have any OEM red cables for
    a Bultaco Sherpa T-350 ? :)
     
    Iowa883, Jan 4, 2005
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  16. Iowa883

    Phil Boutros Guest

    Am I writing in Swahili? You remove the fork seals the same
    way as usual, but slide-hammering the fork sliders off the tube, but
    you leave the tubes in the triple trees.

    Then, to reinstall, you partially put the slider on, then put
    the split fork seal installers on the tubes (no need to slide them
    over the top since they are split), and slide hammer the seals back
    in.
    As did I. Never did it on upside-down forks.


    Phil
     
    Phil Boutros, Jan 4, 2005
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  17. Iowa883

    Phil Boutros Guest

    Once again...You do have to remove the fork sliders from the
    tubes, but you can leave the tubes in the triple trees.


    Phil
     
    Phil Boutros, Jan 4, 2005
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  18. !!! Are you on crack? No thanks...scratched fork tubes is
    not a good thing.
    You go right ahead on YOUR bike(s) I like seals that don't
    leak and don't need replacement sooner than needed. That
    technique is a receipe for disaster in my opinion.


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    Keith Schiffner, Jan 4, 2005
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  19. Iowa883

    Phil Boutros Guest

    Er...How will disassembling the fork this way risk scratching
    the fork tubes? How do you disassemble them? How does the manual
    tell you to do it?

    Keep in mind we are talking about conventional hydraulic (i.e.
    non-cartridge) forks.
    OK....I'll bite...How do you install fork seals?


    Phil
     
    Phil Boutros, Jan 4, 2005
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  20. Iowa883

    James Clark Guest

    Unless you can seat the seal before assembling the USD fork leg, I suspect a split driver is the
    only way to get past the axle/brake carrier.
     
    James Clark, Jan 4, 2005
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