FS: Fazer 600

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by JackH, Feb 24, 2009.

  1. JackH

    JackH Guest

    Yes, I know, I know... I said the other day I was going to keep it, but I've
    seen something else at the right money which really appeals.

    1998 Yamaha Fazer FZS600 in black.

    Just under 23k miles from new with a reasonable amount of history to suggest
    this is correct.

    Meta remote alarm with two pads.

    MOT and tax til June 2009.

    Renthal bars and rack.

    Stainless Micron downpipes.

    This week I've been rather benevolent towards it, and have bought and fitted
    the following to it:

    Battery
    Clutch cable
    Rear brake disc
    Rear wheel bearings
    Front sprocket (1)
    Bridgestone BT021 rear tyre

    I've also changed the oil and filter and having roadtested it for the first
    time today, the clutch has developed a slight slip... which is why on the
    recommendation of the local Yammie dealer, I'm changing the Halfords part
    synth oil I stupidly put in it for the official Yamaha mineral stuff
    tomorrow.

    I've also modded the headlight wiring today (2) so both sides are lit up
    rather than the more usual one, on dipped beam.

    And finally, I've given the swingarm a damn good degrease etc, and it all
    looks rather spiffy now. :)

    New plugs a couple of weeks ago or so, and new fork seals a few months back
    apparently - in other words, given the front tyre is good, it needs nothing.

    Pretty tidy for the year overall - no pitting to the forks etc, as tends to
    happen to the more abused Fazers out there, a couple of marks on the tank /
    side panels, but not out of the ordinary for a bike approaching 11 years
    old.

    Dirt cheap to run even if you tend to like riding 'enthusiastically', and
    the insurance is peanuts considering the performance on offer - not sure I'm
    doing the right thing selling this to get another behemoth but whatever, I
    need to finally own one of what it is I'm planning to replace it with or
    I'll always be wondering 'what if'. :)

    1295 of your finest Engrish pounds, located in Kent, pics available on
    request.

    (1) Yes I know, you should always change these as a set, but the last owner
    was obviously a bit limp wristed and couldn't get the sprocket retainer nut
    off, so changed the rear sprocket and chain and left this as it was, as I
    discovered when I removed the sprocket housing to change the clutch cable.

    (2) Known, well documented mod, this.
     
    JackH, Feb 24, 2009
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  2. Bloody bargain. Fantastic bikes, those old Fazers. The later model (I
    mean, still using the T'Cat engine, before the shite one they make
    nowadays) had a bigger fuel tank, slightly better fairing and better
    lights) but the old Mark One was still a good bike.

    I remember blitzing one on a French Run. Whose was it? Sean H's? I
    forget. I do remember we stopped at a petrol station to slacken off the
    chain, which a dealer had tightened like a bloody bowstring at a recent
    service).

    Really, really good fun. Comfy, economical, decent range, and a
    wonderful engine. (I'm not on commission, btw)
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 24, 2009
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  3. JackH

    JackH Guest

    Ta.

    The bits I've done to it this week add up to... <thinks> just under £270.

    That's in parts, not labour.
    I do like them... bar the headlight, but hopefully the mod I've done today
    has addressed some of the issue with that.

    I still disagree with the common belief they're powered by a Thundercat lump
    though.

    Yes, they're of the same era and share some internals, but the barrels
    aren't even offset to the block at the same angle.
    Surprisingly so - the first Fazer I had, had been dynojetted and was shite
    on fuel compared to this one.

    Ragging it equates to 41mpg, and I'm not shy of the throttle.

    That, and the insurance on this is peanuts compared even to stuff like the
    CBR600 and it's only once you're at silly speeds that one of those will
    leave one of these in its wake

    And even then it won't be streaking off into the distance.
    Very torquey for a 600, yet still likes to rev right up to the redline (and
    beyond if you're not feeling particularly sympathetic).
    <hides brown envelope stuffed full of tenners>

    Yes, I'm not sure if I'm doing the right thing but I've seen a Chunderace
    that really appeals and I've now accepted I need to own one or I'll forever
    be asking myself whether or not I should get one.

    Having said that, I'd not be too upset if this didn't sell and I ended up
    keeping it. :)
     
    JackH, Feb 24, 2009
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  4. JackH

    Jeremy Guest

    says...>

    <waves>

    Was my first after the '75 RD250 (which was first bike after becoming a
    born again, returning after 20 years) - so my first "big bike".
     
    Jeremy, Feb 24, 2009
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  5. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    Me and Satto followed a guy riding one towards Matlock one day. When we
    stopped both of us commented on how bloody well he was riding. When we
    got back we found out it was one of the guys at the B/EOSM who'd only
    been riding for about 5 or 6 months

    --
    Lozzo
    New bike (arrives Friday)
    Fireblade 929 (For sale)
    ZX-7R P4 (for sale)
    CBR600F-W trackbike
    SR250 SpazzTrakka,
    RD400F, somewhere
    I see a bright new future, where chickens can cross the road with no
    fear of having their motives questioned
     
    Lozzo, Feb 24, 2009
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  6. JackH

    Eiron Guest

    Obviously he hadn't been riding long enough to know how difficult it is.
     
    Eiron, Feb 24, 2009
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  7. JackH

    JackH Guest

    They have pukka brakes, if not such pukka suspension, although it does the
    job and it's probably better if a novice doesn't have too much scope in that
    respect.

    And the power delivery is pretty progressive, although if you snatch a
    handful in first it will rise up whether you're expecting it or not... and
    that's with loads of ballast, as in a pie fancier of my magnitude, on board.

    I really do like them... as I say, it's just a continuing nag I've had for
    at least a couple of years now that my life may be just that little bit more
    complete if it had a Chunderace in it, driving the desire to change.
     
    JackH, Feb 24, 2009
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  8. It is the same engine, but as you say, the block is more upright.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 25, 2009
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  9. JackH

    ogden Guest

    That's not quite the adjective I'd use.
     
    ogden, Feb 25, 2009
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  10. JackH

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Heh. Just noticed this. Poor thing must have looked like a Star of
    David.

    <Pats new rattle gun>
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 25, 2009
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  11. JackH

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Really? Why not, out of interest? I think it was one of those parts
    bin specials that just came together properly, and was so much more
    than the sum of its parts. A bit like the old Yamaha FZ600 and the
    original Suzuki 600 Bandit (and it was way better than either of those
    bikes).
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 25, 2009
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  12. JackH

    ogden Guest

    Anything that isn't "tedious, underpowered, squidgy pile of shite".
     
    ogden, Feb 25, 2009
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  13. JackH

    Eddie Guest

    I've never managed to get a sprocket nut off with my rattle gun (Aldi
    issue, from 2 or 3 years ago).

    I usually resort to a couple of special tools: a short length of
    scaffold through the rear wheel, and a longer length on the breaker bar.

    Oh, and then a new sprocket nut because the original one's been chewed
    up by the rattler.
     
    Eddie, Feb 25, 2009
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  14. JackH

    Lozzo Guest

    TOG@Toil wrote:

    I prefered the Bandit to the Fazer

    --
    Lozzo
    New bike (arrives Friday)
    Fireblade 929 (For sale)
    ZX-7R P4 (for sale)
    CBR600F-W trackbike
    SR250 SpazzTrakka,
    RD400F, somewhere
    I see a bright new future, where chickens can cross the road with no
    fear of having their motives questioned
     
    Lozzo, Feb 25, 2009
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  15. JackH

    zymurgy Guest

    I agree about the engine. I rode one back to back with the Bindit 6
    and the Yamaha engine is much more crisp and snappy (in terms of 4 pot
    600's) compared to Suzuki's finest.

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 25, 2009
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  16. JackH

    TOG@Toil Guest

    Hm. Never rode a late model Bindit, but definitely preferred the Fazer
    the the Mark One. Smoother, faster and handled better. I never really
    liked the 600 Bandit's handling, and it was unpleasantly buzzy IMHO.
     
    TOG@Toil, Feb 25, 2009
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  17. JackH

    zymurgy Guest

    Me too, but the Yamaha's engine is better.

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Feb 25, 2009
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  18. JackH

    JackH Guest

    I think you must have ridden a bad one then, if that's your take on them.
     
    JackH, Feb 25, 2009
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  19. JackH

    JackH Guest

    If the B6 is anything like the early B12 I rode a while back, they're pretty
    dire by comparison.

    Nowhere near as much fun to ride either.
     
    JackH, Feb 25, 2009
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  20. JackH

    JackH Guest

    Not sure if there's anything official out there, but I would assume someone
    like Hagon would be able to supply a short shock for it, and a reasonable
    upholsterer would be able to remodel the seat to make it a bit lower, (might
    be worth asking Lozzo on this one).
    So long as she doesn't crack the throttle open hard in first, (and by that I
    mean, snap it open hard) she'll be fine with one of these as they're quite
    forgiving really - the power is nice and progressive and I've yet to get the
    back wheel to spin up unexpectedly on cacky back roads (the positive side to
    a riding position which encourages the front to come up a bit easier than
    stuff with a more sporty riding position, as in more weight over the front).
    I'm in Canterbury.

    If you're not too far away, you're more than welcome to pop down and have a
    look at the weekend, and you can take it out for a ride if you want so long
    as you have CIHAGM cover and agree you've bought it if you bin it.

    I've changed the oil again today and the clutch is still slipping a bit.

    I've therefore ordered a set of EBC heavy duty friction plates and springs
    today, so it'll have a new clutch as well by the weekend, meaning it's now
    soaked up nearly £350s worth of parts over the last week or so... bless it.
    ;-)

    *muttergrumblegrumblemutter* ;-)
     
    JackH, Feb 25, 2009
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