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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Pip, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. Pip

    Pip Guest

    It's time to shed my reliable old shed and this seems to be the place
    to start as there's the odd pikey ShiteOldCar runner around:

    1997 Peugeot 406 1.8 LX saloon (with droppable rear seat)
    ~150k miles, manual, petrol, dark blue. MoT July, tax till end June.
    Power steering, electric front windows, central locking, aircon,
    towhitch
    Interior reflects mileage and usage - scruffy but not dirty or torn
    Exterior reflects clumsiness - many minor dingettes, couple of decent
    scrapes (n/s rear door particularly) good ding in o/s front wing.

    Would make an excellent urban warrior due to condition and lack of
    nickability. Has FDSH up to my ownership, then I've maintained it for
    the past 40k - very recent full exhaust inc cat, for example.

    As it stands it would fly an MoT test (with an advisory for the creak
    in the rear suspension which has been the same for three years, I
    can't find it and neither can the MoT testers nor three other
    mechanics) and if somebody wants it I'll stick a ticket on it for 50
    quid extra.

    Adequately quick, it ain't no cross-country missile, but it doesn't
    hang about and gets ~35mpg in general use. Comfy as you like, feels
    nice to drive, has served me well for the past five years during which
    time it has been *totally* reliable. Has the odd quirk like the
    driver's window sometimes decides to go down again after you've hit
    the button to close it (French-designed, built by Brummies, see) and
    the fag lighter doesn't work very well.

    Four hundred quid or 450 with 12 months ticket. Located in Flitwick,
    200m from the railway station, ~5 miles from J12 M1.
    Delivery negotiable.

    Bring it on.
     
    Pip, Jun 21, 2008
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    Steve Parry Guest


    Perhaps BGN would want another old Pug? :)

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    Steve Parry
    BMW R45, 01 Kawasaki ZX12-R, 07 K1200GT SE
    95 BMW F650, 87 Yamaha FS1, Sukida SK90PY, 91 Kawasaki AR50,
    07 VW Passat SE Estate for comfort
    www.gwynfryn.co.uk
     
    Steve Parry, Jun 21, 2008
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  3. Pip

    Pip Guest

    I thought that. I also thought that unless he was to pay me the
    asking price I'd make sure it ended up outside his house.
    Unfortunately, the 'later' models (like mine) do not rust, due to the
    galvanised body panels.
     
    Pip, Jun 21, 2008
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  4. Pip

    YTC#1 Guest

    They all do that sir, Kwik Fit can spray some nice stuff around the
    rubbers/linkage that shuts it up for a while.
    Used to get 40 out of my 2.0 on a run. 26 round town :-(
    They have a bad rep, but mine never let me down in 7 years and 149k miles,
    until the gearbox died.
     
    YTC#1, Jun 21, 2008
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  5. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Heh. The ex-patio ornament V6 Vectra. Such a sensible choice, in
    these times of cheap and plentiful petrol.
     
    Pip, Jun 21, 2008
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  6. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Towed trailers and bikes up hill, down dale, climbed mountains, forded
    streams - all that. Never complained, never failed to start, never
    stopped running. Slight whiff of clutch once, when dragging an
    unwilling MGB up the hill to be painted, but that was it.
     
    Pip, Jun 21, 2008
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  7. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Well I'm buggered. There's a KwikFit in town, I'll give it a go.
    The penalty of a 2.0. Pulling a trailer full of camping gear to
    Cornwall, then snaking round overcrowded and overheated Cornish towns
    for a couple of weeks and coming back (uphill all the way, innit) the
    1.8 returned 38 overall. Never worse than 30.
    Another one of those under-rated vehicles, like my previous Renault
    21. The 406 is functional, not un-pretty, quite pleasant to drive and
    comfy too. Half-decent performance and economy helps, but as a
    package hard to beat for the money. Passengers seemed to like it.
     
    Pip, Jun 21, 2008
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  8. Pip

    YTC#1 Guest

    But I liked me pug, and the extra oomph the 2.0 had over the 1.8 was worth
    it. Especially when the fuel was company fuel
    Well comfy, 307 is no where near as good.
    Lots of taxi drivers do as well
     
    YTC#1, Jun 21, 2008
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    Ben Guest

    I had something similar on the Fester. Liberal application of silicon
    lube spray from Halfords cured it.
     
    Ben, Jun 21, 2008
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  10. You sure?

    Given you're a bit of a spanner monkey you probably know all this
    already, but if the clutch goes on these (1)it's a right PITA to do
    given Vauxhall decided to do away with both the 'cassette' clutch
    arrangement (2) and the more conventional way of mounting the engine
    (3) over the previous Cavalier models.
    They're not that bad on fuel for a V6 IIRC... they will however
    eventually need new hydraulic tappets, and if you're lucky, you'll
    realise the rocker covers are leaking oil before it drops enough into
    the alternator to kill it.

    The dash display that *will* lose half its pixels you'll probably
    just find irritating...

    Yes, I'm not a fan of these.

    (1) DAMHIK IJD, OK... and it wasn't the clutch that had actually gone,
    it was the slave cylinder which Vauxhall had helpfully mounted inside
    the bellhousing with no external access, meaning there was no
    alternative than to split the engine and box to get at it.

    (2) As in, 30 minutes to change a clutch if you had access to set of
    ramps rather than, IIRC, four and a bit hours Vauxhall used to quote
    for the four pot versions.

    (3) The engine is mounted on the front subframe rather than by
    conventional mounts all round. Net result is you need to drop the
    whole lot down if the clutch goes in order to split the engine and
    box, which is fine... bar if the subframe isn't supported in the right
    places, it can end up twisting and you end up with something that
    scrubs out its front tyres even more quickly than a 170bhp FWD
    normally does.
     
    jackhackettuk, Jun 21, 2008
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  11. The 110bhp HDI is fantastic on fuel - 48mpg I found was the worst I
    ever used to get out of mine on a mixture of town and A road stuff, no
    matter how much I ragged it.

    A much more pleasant, torquey power unit than the 90bhp or 1.9 TD
    models as well.
    The gearbox is the one major thing that tends to go in these, and
    given they all tend to do it in the end whilst the rest of the car
    tends to hold up quite well in later life, the gearboxes are sought
    after secondhand.

    HDI wise, you need to keep the belts changed and make sure that the
    bottom pulley is changed as well - seen more than one of these where
    said pulley is worn, throws the alternator belt and this then gets
    tangled up with the cambelt - bye bye top end.

    That, and neglecting to keep the fuel filter changed can end up in
    injectors / fuel pumps getting blown to bits.
     
    jackhackettuk, Jun 21, 2008
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  12. Pip

    ginge Guest

    I had one of those back in the olden days.

    They can be provoked to do 30+ MPG, but I generally saw 26. Oh and
    they understeer horribly and make the fronts triangular at the
    slightest provocation.

    thank **** it was a company car with fuel card.
     
    ginge, Jun 21, 2008
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  13. Typical. I'd have had it but why didn't you mention it when I said I was
    flogging the Mondy?
     
    Whinging Courier, Jun 22, 2008
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  14. Pip

    Pip Guest

    'Cos that was a few weeks ago and the Pug's replacement wasn't legal
    at that point?
     
    Pip, Jun 22, 2008
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  15. Why the question mark? Are you telling me or asking me?
     
    Whinging Courier, Jun 24, 2008
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  16. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Interrogative statement, I guess. Prolly has a proper name and
    everyfink.
     
    Pip, Jun 24, 2008
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  17. Pip

    zymurgy Guest

    I could hear your upward inflection. Maybe WC is being tetchy ?

    P.
     
    zymurgy, Jun 24, 2008
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  18. Pip

    CT Guest

    No, I don't think he is.

    The current over-usage of raised intonation is bad enough as it is,
    without it creeping into Usenet.

    And seeing as Pip is the most vocal of grammar-kopping on here, it's
    about time he got his come-uppance?
     
    CT, Jun 24, 2008
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  19. Pip

    zymurgy Guest

    If I was going to attempt to give Pip his comeuppance, it wouldn't be
    over a fucking feral question mark.

    What's wrong with everyone today ;) [1]

    Cheers,

    Paul.

    [1] ?
     
    zymurgy, Jun 24, 2008
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  20. Pip

    Pip Guest

    Well, there's a thing. I detest the use of such inflections, as
    (especially female) teenagers seem to use it to end every sentence.
    It just seemed apposite at the time - and I reserve my right to abuse
    English as I use it adequately most of the time.
    Bring it on, Fatty.
    Cor, I've just come across this (f'narr) and I wish I wasn't four days
    late.
     
    Pip, Jun 28, 2008
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