Yes. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
We have a different definition of the word then. My understanding is that it is over protection, to the extent the child fails to establish their own identity and is incapable of thriving outside the home environment. That can hardly be said about either of my two. He is still going to have some debt, he is still going to have to use the skills he's been taught to manage his money, time, education. <snip bit of a rant> I think it is best we agree to disagree before I use the 'you don't have children you wouldn't understand' line.
I'd say so. Since 18 I've entirely paid my own way in life, and reckon I'm better off having learnt the value of things for myself than I would have been if they came on a plate.
surely that's wrong? if the intention is to educate young people into the modern british reality of spiralling out-of-control debt, the student loan should be the least affordable? i know a young family, father completed his phd about 5 years ago and works as a research microbiologist. earns about the same as an nqt. i think his family funded him through university - just as well, because i can't honestly understand how he manages to keep his family afloat as it is, let alone if he had a debt to pay off.
I'm hardly wealthy, just from a generation that believes in saving rather than debt. I've been very poor, I didn't like it, I want to avoid my children struggling to the extent my family have at various points. I'm in a position to do this and I'd rather use the money I have on my kids education than myself. He'll build on the learning he already has in this area. Note I said reduce debt, not wipe out. I disagree. Not at all.
Ah never 'ad 'owt I didn't work fer, wi' me own two 'ands, and ah dun't see why anyone else should either. But seriously, Reliance on parental assistance is something that should be beaten#W educated out of kids at the earliest opportunity. Let them stand on their own two feet. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
Who had to fend for themselves from an early age (16 in my case). Class[1] jealousy? Surely not! [1] For financial values of 'class'. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
So did I from 18. With added children and a low paid then student husband from 21 to 27. It was irredeemably grim in places. I earn a lot less than most here, to be fair that's by choice as every time I do lucrative consultancy for quangos or private companies I feel like a class [1] traitor. However it has allowed me to put money aside for the kids. [1] For a non financial, heritage with a small h (pronounced aitch) value of class.
And you want to shield your kids from that. Perfectly natural, of course, and no-one's criticising you for doing so (or at least I'm not) but it definitely classes as "molly-coddling" in my book, which means looking after them even when they're perfectly capable of looking after themselves. -- _______ ..'_/_|_\_'. Ace (b.rogers at ifrance.com) \`\ | /`/ `\\ | //' BOTAFOT#3, SbS#2, UKRMMA#13, DFV#8, SKA#2, IBB#10 `\|/` `
There's a whole world of grey though between those extremes. For example, my parents paid my way through university. But I still ran up my student loans and credit cards to the max. And they left me to sort those out myself. Likewise, I've bought my own houses and cars, but when I've been made redundant whilst skint, they helped out. It's going to sound corny, but I see it as family looking after their own. If my parents or sibling ever needed financial help, as well as my own future children, then I'll help if required.
